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Re: For 'Linmey' re Woodhams from Bedfordshire
« Reply #108 on: Wednesday 18 June 14 15:15 BST (UK) »
Hello John

Thanks for that lot!! Interesting stuff, but no hint as to who John Woodham born 1716 is. Not even one in the whole of Beds. However, the Woodhams did flirt with non-conformism on a fairly regular basis, so he may have been born in the generation which was in that state of mind at the time.

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Re: For 'Linmey' re Woodhams from Bedfordshire
« Reply #109 on: Wednesday 18 June 14 18:16 BST (UK) »
Thank you John. That's very interesting. He seems to be a bit of a mystery man but I am going with tickles theory.
Reynolds, Woodham, Payne, Wilmott, Hart, Richardson, Packwood, Tandy, Dexter - Bedfordshire.
Chamberlain and Wagstaff- Hunts.
Freeman, Cheney, Cox- Northants.
Burns, Muter, Cobban, Hossack, Strachan, Moonlight.
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Re: For 'Linmey' re Woodhams from Bedfordshire
« Reply #110 on: Thursday 19 June 14 16:54 BST (UK) »
More Moravian findings of the Woodham name via Beds Archives site.... ref MO4/36/11

Page 36 entry no.11
Ann Smith (maiden name Woodham), Church of England, MS
Born: Sep 1750 at Milton in Bedfordshire
Received: 16 Nov 1783 at Bedford
First admitted to the sacrament: 5 Sept 1784 at Bedford
Office: Now become a widow.

Seems this is Ann Woodhams, baptised Milton Ernest on 23 Sep 1750, daughter of William Woodham & Elizabeth Hart who married at M/E on 3 Oct 1742. Ann married Samuel Smith of Finedon at M/E on 21 Aug 1774. They had 3 children baptised at M/E in 1776/1778/1781.
Samuel Smith was buried Bedford Moravian on 24 Apr 1789 age 40 (=1749)
Anne Smith also buried Bedford Moravian on 28 Mar 1830 age 80 (=1750)
 
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Re: For 'Linmey' re Woodhams from Bedfordshire
« Reply #111 on: Thursday 19 June 14 18:50 BST (UK) »
The Moravian church in that part of Beds is very interesting. My branch of the Woodhams were Moravians up to the 1960`s when my Great grandfathers sister was buried in the Moravian churchyard in Pertenhall. Thank you John.
Reynolds, Woodham, Payne, Wilmott, Hart, Richardson, Packwood, Tandy, Dexter - Bedfordshire.
Chamberlain and Wagstaff- Hunts.
Freeman, Cheney, Cox- Northants.
Burns, Muter, Cobban, Hossack, Strachan, Moonlight.
Lanarkshire, Ross and Cromarty and Kincardineshire.
Garvey- Ireland.

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Re: For 'Linmey' re Woodhams from Bedfordshire
« Reply #112 on: Sunday 22 June 14 15:43 BST (UK) »
I am a bit hesitant about adding to this thread, but as I am also struggling with Woodhams, here goes.

I am interested in the Thomas Woodham mentioned earlier, breeches maker of St Neots, who married Sarah Cook and who died in 1846.
He was aged 66 when he died, and the 1841 census shows him as born out of county. However he was otp when he married Sarah at St Neots in 1808.
His presumed birth year c1779 makes it a possibility that he is the son of William Woodham and Mary née Cooper - baptised in December 1779 at Southill.

A Sarah Woodham married George Fowler at St Neots in 1798. Witnesses are Susannah, Mary and William Woodham. Sarah and George had a son baptised at St Neots in 1802, also George Fowler.
Thomas Woodham's will of 1846 names George Fowler, surgeon of Surrey as one of his executors, which suggests that he may be someone whom Thomas knows as family.
George Fowler, surgeon aged 49 (born in St Neots) is visiting St Neots in 1851.

George Fowler senior died in 1811. His will (PCC) names William Woodham, farmer of Gamlingay as one of his executors. If he is a relative George doesn't say.
Sarah Fowler (née Woodham) remarried in 1825 to Samuel Parker, widower of Great Staughton, Huntingdonshire. The couple are recorded living in Great Staughton in 1841.
Samuel Parker died in 1844. His will (PCC) mentions his wife's son, George Fowler.
In 1851 Sarah Parker, widow aged 77 is at the home of her son in Newington, Surrey with her grandchildren Sarah and William Fowler. Her birthplace is Stanfordbury, Bedfordshire. Stanfordbury is a hamlet in the parish of Southill.

Upthread it is mentioned that the daughter of William Woodham and Mary née Cooper named Sarah (baptised at Southill in 1774) married a man named Hart - and there is a marriage at Southill of Sarah Woodham to John Hart in 1790.

Am I missing something that might help?
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Re: For 'Linmey' re Woodhams from Bedfordshire
« Reply #113 on: Sunday 22 June 14 19:52 BST (UK) »
Hi Galium

It's nice to be back with the proverbial 'can of worms' again. I have left the Woodhams alone for a long time, mostly from sheer frustration.

Having had another rummage, not very effectively because the St Neots records are so sparse, I'm thinking that there is some confusion with the Sarah Woodhams and who they married. William Woodham (d 1784) had as one of his executors a Henry Fryer of Hailweston in Hunts. Henry Fryer married a Sarah Woodham c 1765 (two children baptised at Pertenhall maybe?) So maybe Sarah daughter of William of Keysoe/Stanfordbury married Mr Fryer not Mr Hart. The Sarah who married John Hart must be a similar age, and in the back of my mind I have a John Hart mentioned in one of the Woodham Wills (of which I have dozens,) and I haven't managed to catch up with him yet, but I will in the fullness thereof and report back.

In the meantime, thanks for the info on the St Neots crowd who have eluded me for some time.

Re the Fowlers, George junior's brother William was a solicitor which may explain some of the connections. Do you have the full entry for the marriage of George to Sarah Woodham in 1798? I would like to have that to see if it gives any more information.

It's interesting to have a confusion of Sarahs for a change. It's usually Thomas John or William, so welcome to the madhouse cousin, and please could you tell us your line of descent so we can add you to the ever expanding tree.

Thanks

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Priest - Hants
Raines - Co Cork, Ireland
Rysdyck/Rysdyke - Netherlands, & New York
Ryder - Cheshire/Lancs
Sanders - Hants
Urmson - Cheshire
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Woodham - Cambs, Beds, Essex

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Re: For 'Linmey' re Woodhams from Bedfordshire
« Reply #114 on: Monday 23 June 14 12:34 BST (UK) »
Hi Tickle.  Thomas Woodham is my husband's ancestor via his daughter Mary (who married Isaac Stocker at St Neots, 10 February 1832. They moved to London, where Mary died in 1856.

I don't have images of the register for St Mary, only  transcripts:

 11 June 1798 by licence

George Fowler bachelor otp
Srah Woodham spinster otp

Witnesses: Dixie Claridge
                   Sarah Rose
                   Mary Woodham
                   Susannah Woodham
                   William Woodham

The licence was issued by the Archdeaconry of Huntingdon, but I don't have copies of the allegation and bond at present.
The AofH also issued a licence for the marriage of Susannah Woodham of St Neots to Jacques A DeVaudishon of Bedford in 1799.  I have not found a record of the marriage. It was not at St Neots. However, the couple had a child, Caroline Woodham de Vaudishon baptised at Bedford in 1800.  I believe that the surname is more usually spelled De Vaudichon, and Susannah's husband was Jacques Alexandre De Vaudichon.  I have found today a tree which says that Susannah died in 1805, but gives no other details:
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0165b/

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Re: For 'Linmey' re Woodhams from Bedfordshire
« Reply #115 on: Monday 23 June 14 13:47 BST (UK) »
The AofH also issued a licence for the marriage of Susannah Woodham of St Neots to Jacques A DeVaudishon of Bedford in 1799.  I have not found a record of the marriage. It was not at St Neots.

Hunts Marriage Index shows the marriage in 1799 in St Neots between Susannah Woodham and Jacques Alexandre DE NAUDISHON of Bedford St Paul
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            Henlow: Cooper/Watts/Sabey/Rook
            Potton:  Merrill
            Southill: Faulkner/Litchfield/Sabey/Rook
            Woburn/Husborne Crawley: Surkitt
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            Toseland: Surkitt/Hedge/Corn         
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Re: For 'Linmey' re Woodhams from Bedfordshire
« Reply #116 on: Monday 23 June 14 14:06 BST (UK) »
Thanks David. That'll teach me to look more carefully!
My St Neots transcript also has Jacques' surname as De Naudishon.
The marriage was on 19 October 1799
Jacques Alexandre De Vaudishon bachelor of Bedford St Paul
Susannah Woodham spinster otp
Witnesses: George Fowler
                 Dixie Claridge
                 Mary Woodham

(Dixie Claridge was a frequent witness at St Mary, so probably not related.)
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