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Origin of PAWLYBY/ PALBY family of Stoke Damerel ?
« on: Thursday 12 May 11 17:22 BST (UK) »
I am researching my Pawlby/Palby ancestors of Stoke Damerel, and wonder whether anyone knows where they originated from, prior to ' turning up ' in S. Devon?

The earliest member was a John Pawlby , born around 1795, and who married Elizabeth Lee, 17.2.1814, in Stoke Damerel.
I have no clues at all to link this John to any other group of Pawlby/Paulby/Palby's , so no idea of his birth details.
Can anyone help. please ?

Many thanks, in anticipation..............Kilmeny

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Re: Origin of Pawlyby/ Palby family of Stoke Damerel ?
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 12 May 11 18:18 BST (UK) »
It would appear that John was a clerk in the dockyard before becoming a builder & carpenter according to his children's baptism records.
A 42 year old John PAWLBY was buried at Stoke Damerel 14 May 1834. (Born 1792)
A 79 year old John PAWLBY was buried there 20 Aug 1832. (Born 1753)
A 60 year old Elizabeth PAWLBY was buried there 8 Sept 1819. (Born 1759)
There is a baptism at Stoke Damerel 30 May 1803 to John & ELizabeth for a Sarah PAWLBY, but nothing prior to that date, which seems to confirm that they came from elsewhere around that time. I'm 'assuming' that the older John & Elizabeth were the parents of John 1792.
Pigots Directory 1822-23 for Morice Town shows:
Pawlby, Jno: Joiner, Carpenter & Printer's Joiner               1 Portland Place

There do not appear to be any records around the Plymouth area in any parish other than Stoke Damerel. John may have had a brother Richard, as there is a marriage in 1835 to a Lavinia PRIOR.
It was certainly a very unique name!
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Re: Origin of Pawlyby/ Palby family of Stoke Damerel ?
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 12 May 11 19:43 BST (UK) »
Thank you Dob 7, ........but without wanting to seem ungrateful, I do have exactly same info..( and sorry but I miss-spelt Pawlby in the heading - didn't check before posting ! )

I asked everyone I work with to write down the word Pawlby, as I spoke it , in order to get as many variations of spellings as poss. But , having researched them all I still can't find any other relevant info.
As you say, it is a VERY unusual name ...but maybe someone out there could think up some new alternative spellings ? Now, there's a challenge !

My Gt Gt G'father was Cornelius Pawlby, a senior draughtsman at Devpt. dockyard.
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Re: Origin of Pawlyby/ Palby family of Stoke Damerel ?
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 12 May 11 20:11 BST (UK) »
My inner sense suggests that the name was/is French or Germanic of origin. I've consulted my Oxford Dictionary of Surnames and the word root seems to agree with this. (From PAUL). However, nothing comfirms this. Plymouth St Andrew baptism indexes show:
22 March 1795 John & Geo. Riglow PAWLYN sons of John & ELiz.

Sorry -- wish I could have been more help!
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Re: Origin of Pawlyby/ Palby family of Stoke Damerel ?
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 12 May 11 22:19 BST (UK) »
No, that's fine ! In some ways just to know that someone else can't come up with the answers either, is reassuring for me. I have been gnawing away at this for nearly 20 years, so to imagine it all to be solved like magic, in a flash, would be foolish.
There will come a breakthrough eventually, as more and more records are made available online, I suppose. In the meantime I'll have to attempt to crack some of the other sticking points in my family !

I will follow up that last bit of info you sent, though, and see what else I can find regarding that name. [ There were Parlby's in that part of Devon, but I haven't found them to be connected so far. They seemed to have been far more aristocratic !]

Thanks for your contributions.

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Re: Origin of Pawlyby/ Palby family of Stoke Damerel ?
« Reply #5 on: Friday 13 May 11 06:49 BST (UK) »
For Dob 7,

How did you find the Pawlyn Baps., please? I have had a quick hunt, but wonder how you accessed the St Andrew, Plymouth records.

Looking for any other children of this Jn. and Eliz.
Thank you.........Kilmeny

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Re: Origin of Pawlyby/ Palby family of Stoke Damerel ?
« Reply #6 on: Friday 13 May 11 07:55 BST (UK) »
I run the Devon OPC project - see http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/OPCproject.html so consequently I have purchased many registers on microfiche. I have the DFHS transcription on fiche of Plymouth St Andrew baptisms 1754-1798. No other baptisms are shown to John & Elizabeth PAWLYN.
I did check the Devon FHS surname index (which covers marriages in all Devon parishes 1754-1837 amongst other events) and there were no PAWLBY entries prior to those that you know of in Stoke Damerel. There are 3 marriages for PARLBY 1754-1813. I wouldn't totally discount this connection - names evolved due to pronunciation as you know, and this 'group' could have been a black sheep moving away from the main family. Especially considering they were in the Manadon area. I was struck by the fact that John & Elizabeth's children had 3 names given to them - most unusual for the average baptism of the time unless you were of a higher class.
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Re: Origin of PAWLYBY/ PALBY family of Stoke Damerel ?
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 13 February 19 18:49 GMT (UK) »
Hi

Im actually researching about the Paulby/ Pawlby  family. Iam descendant of Maria Louisa Paulby, who was married with John Swallow, with daugther Sarah Elizabeth Swallow.

Maria Luoisa Paulby, born in Devonport abt 1822, was, in my opinion, probably sister of Cornelius Lee Paulby. A daughter of John Swanson and Maria Louisa was named John Lee Swallow.

John Paulby 1792-1834 was a merchant, married with Elizabeth Lee, with probable issue:

John Lee Paulby b. 1816
George Augustus Paulby b 1818
Elizabeth Paulby b 1822
Maria Louisa Paulby b 1823
William Henry Paulby b 1827
Cornelius Lee Paulby b 1830
Kate L Paulby b 1830  1831
Emma Julia Paulby b 1832

There is a record of a Cornelius Lee Pawlby married in 1885 at Islington, where Swallow family lived. This Cornelius was probably a son of Cornelius born at 1830.


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Re: Origin of PAWLYBY/ PALBY family of Stoke Damerel ?
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 13 February 19 18:51 GMT (UK) »
Hi

Im actually researching about the Paulby/ Pawlby  family. Iam descendant of Maria Louisa Paulby, who was married with John Swallow, with daugther Sarah Elizabeth Swallow.

Maria Luoisa Paulby, born in Devonport abt 1822, was, in my opinion, probably sister of Cornelius Lee Paulby. A daughter of John Swanson and Maria Louisa was named John Lee Swallow.

John Paulby 1792-1834 was a merchant, married with Elizabeth Lee, with probable issue:

John Lee Paulby b. 1816
George Augustus Paulby b 1818
Elizabeth Paulby b 1822
Maria Louisa Paulby b 1823
William Henry Paulby b 1827
Cornelius Lee Paulby b 1830
Kate L Paulby b 1830  1831
Emma Julia Paulby b 1832

There is a record of a Cornelius Lee Pawlby married in 1885 at Islington, where Swallow family lived. This Cornelius was probably a son of Cornelius born at 1830.

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