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Re: Soldier WW1 with fake name.. how to find out what it was?????
« Reply #18 on: Friday 13 May 11 14:56 BST (UK) »
I was thinking that too that he wouldn't be underage but if he signed up in 1914 he wouldn't have been 21.  Yes their father was James who died in 1909.   Thank you for looking into it for me  :)

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« Reply #19 on: Friday 13 May 11 15:33 BST (UK) »
Enlistment standards - First World War

During the course of the First World War standards for age, minimum height and minimum chest measurement for enlistment in the AIF were altered.

The requirements in August 1914 were 18–35 years, height of 5ft 6in and chest measurement of 34 inches. In June 1915 the age range and minimum height requirements were changed to 18–45 years and 5ft 2in, with the minimum height being lowered again to 5ft in April 1917. During the first year of the war approximately 33 percent of all volunteers were rejected. However, with relaxation of physical standards of age and height, as well as dental and ophthalmic fitness, previously ineligible men were now eligible for enlistment.

On enlistment recruits were examined for BC or D tattooed on their skin. These were British army tattoos. BC stood for bad character and D for deserter.


http://www.awm.gov.au/encyclopedia/enlistment/

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« Reply #20 on: Friday 13 May 11 19:08 BST (UK) »
One of mine enlisted under a false name but not that he was under age.  We found on his death cert his stepmother had given what name he was known as but also the name he used in the welsh pioneers and therefore it was put as otherwise known as and both entries on the death index but both obviously lead to the same man. This enabled me to find his medal index card and under the other name. It ties up to his army number but i can't prove any more definite than that as his records have n't survived and while he was in the army he was on the absent voters list under the name he was known as! My grandad was supposed to be under age but if he was ,it was only a matter of months and he is under his proper name.
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« Reply #21 on: Friday 13 May 11 23:29 BST (UK) »

There were obviously many reasons why men enrolled under assumed names.

My cousin Fred was not underage, but had had a big argument with his father, so enlisted under an assumed name so that his father wouldn't know. It was only an accidental meeting with a brother when on leave before he sailed overseas that meant eventually his assumed name was known. Fred was one of the many who did not return. The story is revealed in his records, as there ended up being many letters written by family trying to have his correct name used on his records.



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Steeles, Burton, Garrod (Norfolk), Clarke, Tomblin (Rutland)
Bauer (London, France), Blades, Parker (Surrey)
Edwards, Coles, Smith, Nunley, Craddock, York, & Linnell (Northants) )
Ehmcke, Deimel, Appelkamp (Germany)
Watts (Somerset, Wiltshire) Selway, Churchill, & Chappell (Somerset)
Redwood (Devon, Essex) Button, Archer, Leach (Cambridgeshire)

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« Reply #22 on: Saturday 14 May 11 07:39 BST (UK) »
wonder if he went to ww2 and was too OLD???

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« Reply #23 on: Saturday 14 May 11 10:29 BST (UK) »

Many persons born in 1895 enlisted in the CMF/Militia or the Volunteer Defence Corps.

Check http://www.ww2roll.gov.au/script/name.asp

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« Reply #24 on: Saturday 14 May 11 11:18 BST (UK) »
HI Natalie,

As Sparrett suggested, you can search the Archives site using any search term you like. Even his date of birth, or Parramatta or other family members names to find the next of kin that he gave. You should be able to fill in the whole weekend looking for anything likely.

You said that his family sent him away to be raised by someone else, does your Dad have any idea where of by whom? The address of his family at the time, if you knew it, could be used as a seach term.
I think its more useful for you to be looking at these random records as you may recognise a name or place that the rest of us wouldn't.

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« Reply #25 on: Saturday 14 May 11 11:54 BST (UK) »
thanks all... I have spent hours perusing records by towns etc... will have to try and get some more information I think.

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« Reply #26 on: Saturday 14 May 11 12:43 BST (UK) »



There is a marriage in Paddington -
Reginald McBeath / Mary E Palmer  2535/1915.


"...and it is a different Reginald who married Palmer.."


Do you know something about this listing that causes you to know that this is a different Reginald McBeath?. 

Is this possibly an earlier marriage for your Reginald?.

It  suspiciously occurs at the start of the war.