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Soldier WW1 with fake name.. how to find out what it was?????
« on: Thursday 12 May 11 10:46 BST (UK) »
Hello
My Grandfather enlisted in WW1 under a fake name due to being underage... I know it is a stab in the dark but has anyone got any ideas on how to work out what his name was??????  His real name was Reginald McBeath born in Paddington on the 22nd November 1895.
Any help would be gratefully accepted.
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Natalie

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Re: Soldier WW1 with fake name.. how to find out what it was?????
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 12 May 11 11:01 BST (UK) »
I am not seeing this birth in NSW BDM, or variation -  McBeth, Macbeth.

There is a marriage in Paddington -
Reginald McBeath / Mary E Palmer  2535/1915.

Does this have anything to do with your Reginald.




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Re: Soldier WW1 with fake name.. how to find out what it was?????
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 12 May 11 11:12 BST (UK) »
Natalie, my first cousin 3 x removed did the same thing. However, his record on the NAA site comes up when you search under his proper surname. The record is in his assumed name, but a notation has been made with his correct name.

Have you searched using McBeath?


Dee 
Steeles, Burton, Garrod (Norfolk), Clarke, Tomblin (Rutland)
Bauer (London, France), Blades, Parker (Surrey)
Edwards, Coles, Smith, Nunley, Craddock, York, & Linnell (Northants) )
Ehmcke, Deimel, Appelkamp (Germany)
Watts (Somerset, Wiltshire) Selway, Churchill, & Chappell (Somerset)
Redwood (Devon, Essex) Button, Archer, Leach (Cambridgeshire)

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« Reply #3 on: Thursday 12 May 11 11:15 BST (UK) »
His birth is listed as Reggie McBeath and it is a different Reginald who married Palmer thanks  ;) I have searched just using McBeath but nothing matching comes up...


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« Reply #4 on: Thursday 12 May 11 11:28 BST (UK) »
Sounds like there's nothing in his records to indicate he enrolled under an assumed name then......

That makes it very difficult.   :-\

Good luck.


Dee   :)
Steeles, Burton, Garrod (Norfolk), Clarke, Tomblin (Rutland)
Bauer (London, France), Blades, Parker (Surrey)
Edwards, Coles, Smith, Nunley, Craddock, York, & Linnell (Northants) )
Ehmcke, Deimel, Appelkamp (Germany)
Watts (Somerset, Wiltshire) Selway, Churchill, & Chappell (Somerset)
Redwood (Devon, Essex) Button, Archer, Leach (Cambridgeshire)

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« Reply #5 on: Thursday 12 May 11 11:40 BST (UK) »
thanks :D

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Re: Soldier WW1 with fake name.. how to find out what it was?????
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 12 May 11 11:43 BST (UK) »
Forgive me for butting in, but this general subject interests me too.
My great-uncle Claud Denison Stirling Wilkinson (b. late 1878) left his wife in 1913 -- the story was that his fruit-growing business failed, she nagged him about it, and one day he'd had more than he could stand.  His descendants maintain that he sailed to Australia where he joined cousin Freddy in the same line of business at Renmark, SA.  That they both joined up the following year and were killed at Gallipoli.

I can find Frederick Wilkinson, private in the 10th infantry battalion, AIF, k.i.a. in the ANZAC attack on the Dardanelles 25 Apr. 1915.  But no sign of Claud or anyone with the name Denison or Stirling (which he might have used as an alias).

Personally I think it was wishful thinking on the part of the children that their father died a hero's death.  But it would be nice to know the truth.  Has anyone come across Uncle Claud masquerading under another name, or have any brilliant ideas how I could find him?
Bagwell of Kilmore & Lisronagh, Co. Tipperary;  Beatty from Enniskillen;  Brown from Preston, Lancs.;  Burke of Ballydugan, Co. Galway;  Casement in the IoM and Co. Antrim;  Davison of Knockboy, Broughshane;  Frobisher;  Guillemard;  Harrison in Co. Antrim and Dublin;  Jones around Burton Pedwardine, Lincs.;  Lindesay of Loughry;  Newcomen of Camlagh, Co. Roscommon;  Shield;  Watson from Kidderminster;  Wilkinson from Leeds

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« Reply #7 on: Thursday 12 May 11 11:58 BST (UK) »




Yes, I am wondering about his war service. Natalie what is this story based on - is there a photo of him in uniform, medals etc?.

Many men enlisted using false information. I have an ancestor who was a foreign national and should not have enlisted at all. Such service was usually honoured by the government for post-war befenits such as war service housing loan, war service pension etc.

Men who joined up and served under fabricated enlistment details were usually keen to have their records corrected in order to establish entitlement to these benefits - and no punitive consequences for the original false information.

Do you know definitley that he served?.

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« Reply #8 on: Thursday 12 May 11 12:06 BST (UK) »
This may be Reggies' birth registration, under MCBEATH and MACBEATH:
162/1896 
MACBEATH
Reggie K 
Father James 
Mother Lucy
Registered at  Sydney

http://www.bdm.nsw.gov.au/familyHistory/familyHistory.htm

Leanne