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Re: england to canada
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 11 May 11 06:58 BST (UK) »
Hi,

Beatrice may have made a visit to England.

Name: Beatrice Bolton
Gender: Female
Age: 24
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1903
Birth Country: England
Date of Arrival: 11 Jul 1927
Vessel: Antonia
Search Ship Database: View the 'Antonia' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Port of Arrival: Quebec
Port of Departure: Southampton, England
Roll: T-14735

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Re: england to canada
« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 11 May 11 16:06 BST (UK) »
Hi there,

Just a few things to add to all the great information that JDC found...

The familysearch site also has the Ontario Deaths records:
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0d66/

It looks as if Frank's death was mentioned in the Dutton Advance newspaper. 

http://www.elginogs.ca/Home/ancestor-indexes/newspapers/dutton-advance/da-1930---1934

I think the accident that caused his death would merit mention in the London Free Press too.  It might be worth seeing if someone could look this up for you. 

If you want to see Frank's actual death certificate, JDC has given you the information you need to get the microfilm from the Ontario Archives.   Ancestry has these images in their database too.  if you have a subscription, or if your local library has the free Ancestry Library Edition (mine does :)), you will be able to see it. 

It looks like Frank was buried in the Ebenezer cemetery.  I don't see a cemetery by this name in Elgin County (where Frank died), or in Middlesex County (London area - where they lived).  There is an Ebenezer Grove cemetery in Derehem, Oxford County.   This seems like a possibility because he is from that area.   

Archives of Ontario Cemetery Records - film numbers
http://www.archives.gov.on.ca/english/archival-records/interloan/cemetery-oxford.aspx
Just scroll down to Derehem Township

A local library should have printed copies:
London Library - see link in a previous post
http://www.ocl.net/genealogy/

Then, there is the Ontario Genealogical Society.  They will do lookups for a fee.
http://www.ogs.on.ca/branches/branchlocator.php
Check Elgin, Middlesex and Oxford Counties.  There are lots of good links on the OGS sites.

Beatrice was very young when Frank died, so she may have married again. 

JDC found a record for a trip to England in 1927.  Here is a free image of the passenger list for the return voyage:
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0d67/ 

RK




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Re: england to canada
« Reply #11 on: Wednesday 11 May 11 16:56 BST (UK) »
hiya, RK, JCD,
 thank you so so much for all the info, and the links, it will give me something to do, may be find any children that's if they had any??? many many thanks again, ladym

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Re: england to canada
« Reply #12 on: Wednesday 11 May 11 17:32 BST (UK) »
Hello ladym,

I did a quick check for a 2nd marriage for Beatrice on Ancestry and didn't see one, as RK says, Frank was young when he  passed away.  I will take a longer look when i get a chance in the next coupla days. Dutton s not far from London either, but in ELgin Co I believe.

As for getting the records from the Ontario Archives, they do inter-library loans for some films. Perhaps you can contact you local public library to dod this for you. Check with them while your doing that to see if they have the library version of Ancestry access if you don't have it yourself. The you can go there and get the ancestry document images yourself :-) I am assuming you are not living in the Toronto or London areas to have easy access to getting these dox. If that is indeed the case you may want to use an RAOGK volunteer to get this info for you. Their website is: http://www.raogk.org/ontario.htm. I have used them in the past and found them very helpful.

You mention finding living rellies. I would suggest that you use www.canada411.com to look up the name in the locations you think the children possiblely reside once their names found. Bolton is a common name so a location will need to be narrowed down :-)

Chers for now, JDC

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Coy - Germany
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Rayment - Herts & Kent
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Re: england to canada
« Reply #13 on: Sunday 29 May 11 02:24 BST (UK) »
Hi,

I went to the Toronto Reference Library and had a look in the London directories and I think I found Beatrice and Frank.  Sometimes the work address is given and sometimes the home address - so I think I have interpreted this correctly -

1925 - Frank Bolton is a stoker at Ontario Hosp
1926 - Beatrice I is a clerk at FW Woolworth, 8 Perry Street (I wonder if this is her - there are no other Beatrice Boltons in the directory, but if she was a homemaker, she wouldn't be listed separately.)  Frank Bolton is a labourer with an address of 417 Bathurst.  (This may be a work address)
1927 - Beatrice Bolton is a cook at Victoria Hospital.  Frank is a cooper.  For both, a home address is given - 251 1/2 Wellington street.   This would have to be your Beatrice and Frank.
1928 and 1929, neither of them is in the directory.
1930 - Frank works at Lon and Pet Barrel company.  This would make sense if he was a cooper.  I expect the short forms stand for London and Peterborough - or something like that.   ???
1931 - directory is too delicate to handle, so I didn't look at it.
1932 - Frank is still at the Lon and Pet Barrel Company.  There is a Beatrice Bolton who is a saleslady at the Red and White store, 8 Perry Street.  (this would be the Woolworth store mentioned above).  I don't know if she is your Beatrice or not. 

1932 - Frank dies

1933 - Beatrice Bolton (wid Frank) works at McCormicks, address 365 Ontario Street (I think this is her home address).   There is another Beatrice Bolton who is a clerk at DH Wright at 7 Perry street.  This is the only year when there are 2 Beatrice Boltons listed in the directory.  The Perry street work address makes me wonder if the Woolworth/Red and White Store Beatrice is this second one?? 

This is really odd
1934-1937 there is only one Beatrice Bolton in the directory and she works at McCormicks as above.  She is listed as (wid George) in all of these.   There is no George Bolton in any of the earlier censuses who could have been her husband.  I think I saw one or two, but they had their wives' names in brackets next to their own names - no Beatrice.   Did Frank have a middle name or did he use the name George or is this just an error that never got corrected?  Odd ???

1938 and on - no Beatrice.  Perhaps she married again or moved elsewhere.  If you are looking for a second marriage you might want to look at 1938/1939/1940.

I know this is a bit confusing, but at least it gives you some information that might be helpful if you were to contact the London Library. 

RK :)   

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Re: england to canada
« Reply #14 on: Sunday 29 May 11 04:10 BST (UK) »
Hi all,

They do have the directories at the London Public Library - Central Branch. You may want to have a look at the Scott's or Moodies' Ontario Business directories as well to get info on those businesses. McCormack's is located on Dundas St East ( not far from Ontario St - about 5-6 blocks). The other businesses should be listed there as well. All of the streets you mention would not have been far from where the pair worked in London - mostly walking distance.

As for the remarriage, the regs should be available soon, but till then I would check the London Free Press for announcements.

Good going on the work RK.

cheers, JDC



Carpenter - B'ham Warwick,
Cole - Devon
Coy - Germany
Langmaid - Cornwall & Hants
Rayment - Herts & Kent
Holt - ? England