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with so many elderly relatives already recalling their family information to aid their siblings, do you agree that the 100 yr rule should remain in force for the 1911 census to be made available? taking into account that we can already access the bmd cert

yes
30 (25.2%)
no
68 (57.1%)
dont know
3 (2.5%)
with other data available online,i dont see what the fuss is all about
18 (15.1%)

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Offline Thornhill

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Re: 1911 census
« Reply #9 on: Sunday 25 April 04 06:07 BST (UK) »
Not supporting the 'early' release of 1911 is based on the belief the 100yr  rule is hardfast. It is not. Very few of the earlier census were kept closed for the full 100years. I believe Denis McCready's site has full details.

I actually accessed 1901 census details of my grandfather's family in 1994. As I was next of kin I was entitled to access them, for a fee. I would gladly pay a fee to access my grandmother's 1911 census details *NOW*. My grandmother grew up without an identity thanks to 'information privacy' laws. Exactly who are we protecting here?


That said, if there is no actual legislation that prevents opening 1911 now to everyone, then release it.

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Re: 1911 census
« Reply #10 on: Friday 30 April 04 16:26 BST (UK) »
 :) What about doing a poll asking persons say over  80 if they would mind if the census was opened early ?  and if opened early who would it hurt ??  :-X
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Re: 1911 census
« Reply #11 on: Friday 30 April 04 16:42 BST (UK) »
Quote from: GRACELAND on Friday 30 April 04 16:26 BST (UK)
:) What about doing a poll asking persons say over  80 if they would mind if the census was opened early ?  and if opened early who would it hurt ??  :-X


Nice thought and i can't actually see it harming anyone.But with all The Government's problems at the moment,i can't see them devoting any time to a poll on this.

Stephen :-[

Surnames that I am intersted in are:- Siddons, Coulson, Clives, White, Cullin, Peers, Swingler, Lambeth, Quibell, Greenway, Beaman, Durrie, and Gibbs, all of Aston/Duddeston/Hockley in Birmingham,Warwickshire and Inskeep of Shrewsbury Shropshire and Birimingham

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Re: 1911 census
« Reply #12 on: Saturday 01 May 04 16:45 BST (UK) »
Quote from: Thornhill on Sunday 25 April 04 06:07 BST (UK)
Not supporting the 'early' release of 1911 is based on the belief the 100yr  rule is hardfast. It is not. Very few of the earlier census were kept closed for the full 100years. I believe Denis McCready's site has full details.

I actually accessed 1901 census details of my grandfather's family in 1994. As I was next of kin I was entitled to access them, for a fee. I would gladly pay a fee to access my grandmother's 1911 census details *NOW*. My grandmother grew up without an identity thanks to 'information privacy' laws. Exactly who are we protecting here?


That said, if there is no actual legislation that prevents opening 1911 now to everyone, then release it.



How did you access the 1901 census,who did you contact to do it ??.

In the case of my Great Grand Parents and their children,all that were included in the 1911 census are now dead.It's the same with the other families i am researching,i am related to them all.So as a survivng relative would i be allowed early access ??.Who would i contact ??.

Steven ;D
Surnames that I am intersted in are:- Siddons, Coulson, Clives, White, Cullin, Peers, Swingler, Lambeth, Quibell, Greenway, Beaman, Durrie, and Gibbs, all of Aston/Duddeston/Hockley in Birmingham,Warwickshire and Inskeep of Shrewsbury Shropshire and Birimingham

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Re: 1911 census
« Reply #13 on: Sunday 02 May 04 06:41 BST (UK) »
Hi Steven

1901 is now available online for everyone at
http://www.census.pro.gov.uk/

I accessed 1901 prior to the official release by writing to Office of Population Censuses & Surveys, St Catherine's House. They have probably moved by now.

I did contact the Dept re 1911 last year and they said no plans to release 1911 to next of kin or otherwise.

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Re: 1911 census
« Reply #14 on: Monday 03 May 04 23:08 BST (UK) »
I have read with interest the debate on the 1911 Census and while I understand the  "Right's" of those who when they filled out the census return in 1911 about the 100 year rule... In Ireland the government decided to release the 1901 and 1911 census early... there was no uproar from pensioners giving out about their details being released early and we have all benefited from the information that it contains... Now I know since Irish records are so rare lol.. it was necessary to give the researcher something to get ones teeth into... but surely since the 1911 census here in Ireland was released in 1960 only 49 years after it being taken 70 or 80 years would be fine in the UK...

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Re: 1911 census
« Reply #15 on: Tuesday 04 May 04 19:32 BST (UK) »
 ::)  I agree with you MO   ::)
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Re: 1911 census
« Reply #16 on: Tuesday 04 May 04 19:34 BST (UK) »
 :D  I agree with you Mo .....
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Re: 1911 census
« Reply #17 on: Sunday 13 June 04 21:47 BST (UK) »
I am not sure the 1911 census would help so much, since living memory is able to give most of these details.

Now if they were to release the full 1861 census in the same way as the 1901, that would be brilliant.
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