Old IRA Dublin Brigade

[capel street man]

Hello typetre, just enquiring on progress in your research

Have you contacted Veterans Administration Section, Department of Defence, Renmore Galway regarding pre- Truce service ?

Regarding the medals you mentioned, is this any help

AN BONN SEIRBHISE ( 1917 - 1921 )
THE SERVICE ( 1917 - 1921 )
DATE OF CREATION 24/1/1941

CONDITIONS OF THE AWARD

This medal is awarded in two classes
a) Medal with bar to persons who rendered active service in either periods a) the period commencing on the 1st April, 1920, and ending on the 31st March, 1921, or b) the period commencing on the 1st April, 1921, and ending on the 11th July, 1921.

b) Medal without bar to persons whose service is not deemed to be active military service, but who were members of Oglaigh na hEireann, ( Irish Republican Army ), Fianna Eireann, Cumann na mBan or the Irish Citizen Army for the three months ended on the 11th July ,1921.

Further information on medals from DEPARTMENT OF DEFENCE, FINANCE BRANCH, you could go on their website, not sure if allowed to post website - www.irlgov.ie/defence

CSM

[JohnMB]

Kilmac24,

The following documents are listed in the Small Private Accessions list of the National Archives:

999/742   Donated

1.  9 June 1921 Ballykinlar
Letter from Thomas [ONeill] to his sister, Sr. Monica, Enniscorthy with news of Ballykinlar Camp

2.  Sept 1921
Copy of Ballykinlar Newspaper
No 1 Vol 1, 12 pp

I know that both of these relate to a year after your grand father, Mr. Whelan was there but you might find them interesting anyway. Sorry about my abortive previous attempt to post this message.


JohnMB

[watchman1]

Morning Liam, there is a plaque in a wall, outside a corporation house in Yellow Road, Whitehall, dedicated to a Volunteer, I have no idea who it is or why it is there, perhaps this relates to the reference in your fathers pension application, maybe someone on this site could help and explain the story behind the plaque.
If I come across any other information, I will let you know.
CSM

The memorial referred to is that of Cole and Colley, two senior Fianna Eireann members. They were murdered near to this spot in August 1922 by a squad of Free State officers who had abducted them at Newcomen Bridge, North Strand.. The area was then a quiet country lane.

[capel street man]

Thanks for that watchman1 and welcome to the site

CSM

[watchman1]

Hi. CSM. I'm new to this and still finding my way about. My particular interest is in the activities of the Oriel House CID. I have a large article on this outfit on Wikipedia and I now find many of the name of the CID popping up on this site here. I have collected much of what is available from the NA on Oriel House, and I have thought about writing a booklet on the subject. However, I meet many brick walls during my searches and I find it very frustrating. One name has appeared on this site frequently-Charles Murphy. He was walking home to the North Strand on Clonliffe Road one Night in Nov 1922 and he witnessed Charlie Dalton and Nicholas Tobin (brother of Liam) arresting 3 Fianna boys. They were found, literally riddled, at Clondalkin quarries next morning. Murphys relations now claim that he was working all along for the IRA. Perhaps, as Ernie O'Malley claimed to have at least two of his men inside Oriel House. A document in O'Malleys papers gives a list of 120 men and women, working three shifts out of Oriel House. This list is almost identical to a pay sheet that I have on the CID in Oriel House. I'll stop there before I get carried away. Cheers

[Private 1st class]

Hi I found the list very interesting. What date was it complied, and by who. Many thanks.

[capel street man]

Hello watchman1, you have done stirling work on the research into Oriel House and I understand entirely where you are coming from when you mention " brick walls ", it is every researchers nightmare, but when you can knock down that " brick wall " and you find something relative, its worth all the hard work.
Have you ever come across Eugene Igoe in your research, I am finding it very difficult to find anything about him or his " Gang " other than what I have come across in Witness Statements.

CSM

[watchman1]

Hi again CSM. Igoe was an RIC sergeant based in Galway. He came from a poor farm in Ballycastle, Co. Mayo. For his work in Galway against Republicans he was asked to go to Dublin and sort it out. He recruited similar talent amongst the RIC and they operated out of the Depot in the Park. The 'Squad was constantly looking for this outfit, and on at least one occasion they came face to face.(Charlie Dalton's Statement, I think)His file is available from the British Archives at Kew. I'll try a friend for you for further info. Cheers, Watchman1

Just found a piece on Igoe a few minutes ago. Try:- Jim Harpurs Recollections Part 1

[watchman1]

( Here is the list, have not yet been able to determine when it was published. I believe it to be between 1933 & 1940. Any information on any of the men listed - IE; home addresses, occupations, employer, death date - PLEASE POST here.)
 
E. and M. Companies

3rd BATTALION OLD I.R.A.

Dublin No. 1 Brigade - 196 Pearse Street

 - NAMES OF DECEASED MEMBERS -

Noel Lemass
Patrick Doyle
Dick Hyland
John Mansfield

Frank Jackson
Jack McGowan

John Hyland
James Kearns

- I am particularly interested in the names in bold print -

Hi Sandlotball.
 I just joined this blog two days ago. I can give you information on one of the names that you listed. This is Harry(Henry) McEntee. This man was shot dead at the top of the Jamestown Road, Finglas. This was after the Cease Fire of 1923 and its believed that he was the last man to be killed in the Dublin area. At his inquest his name was given as Glouster Street. The Oriel House Gang had told his wife that they were going to 'riddle' him when they found him.