Old IRA Dublin Brigade

[Private 1st class]

Hi interesting. One reason for a person not receiving a pension is the following. If you were in receipt of state pay at the time the pension came in 1925. You were not entitled to a second payment at the same time. Example. If I was a serving soldier at the time and I applied for the pension. Icould have one or the other I could have the weeks pay every week or the pension every month ,but I could not have both. There would have been a number of men still serving up to the 1930 and were not given pensions. Can not put a number on it. Just know of one personnel case. All information was given to the Dept for to put on to there records.

[NessaF]

James Fitzgerald, Leo Patrick Fitzgerald and Kathleen 'Kitty' Fitzgerald, not sure of her maiden name but she was James' wife. I don't know if they were in the battalion you're talking about, but they were all very involved in the IRA.

[Magell14]

Nessa
 They are not in the names on my picture of F company which was taken in the '40's or '50's.  You should take a look at the Bureau of Military Affairs website and see did your relations make any witness  statements.  Our former Taoiseach Garrett Fitzgerald's family were of course very important during the 1916 Rebellion and the War of Independence.  Dont know if you are related to them.

[NessaF]

Nessa
 They are not in the names on my picture of F company which was taken in the '40's or '50's.  You should take a look at the Bureau of Military Affairs website and see did your relations make any witness  statements.  Our former Taoiseach Garrett Fitzgerald's family were of course very important during the 1916 Rebellion and the War of Independence.  Dont know if you are related to them.

Leo Fitzgerald was shot in 1922. His uniform used to be on display in Collins' Barracks, but I was there a couple of weeks ago and didn't see it (mind you, the place is huge so I might have missed it and it might be in one of the other museums, however unlikely). I'm fairly certain I'm not related to Garrett Fitzgerald, but it's a possibility. They were all pro-treaty, is it possible that's why they're not in it? Of course, it's also possible they weren't able to come for the photo or had died.

[nneligan]

I have been reading the thread above and I want to find out more about my Grandfather, Capt P.J. D'Alton (AKA Paddy Dalton) who was a volunteer in the Dublin Brigade of the Old IRA during the War of Independence. As far as I know (which isn't very much) he was in Fianna Eireann, then enrolled as a Volunteer circa 1919-1920. He took the anti-treaty side and fought in the Four Courts and was interned in Hare camp at the Curragh. In 1939 he entered the LDF where he held the rank of Captain. I have attached some images, and interesting documents that I have unearthed. (I will put into a second post)

[nneligan]

Here are some of the documents.

[nneligan]

One more photo and document.

[Ms. Smokestoomuch]

I see that a J P Dalton left a witness statement with the military archive.

Wouldn't be your granda would it?

Great photos by the way.

Its also good too to see the way they dealt with WW2 looming. My granda joined up for the emergency and he was anti treaty. I often wonder how it had been pitched to the old IRA anti treaty side.
They didn't mince there words really.

[nneligan]

I see that a J P Dalton left a witness statement with the military archive.

Wouldn't be your granda would it?

Great photos by the way.

Its also good too to see the way they dealt with WW2 looming. My granda joined up for the emergency and he was anti treaty. I often wonder how it had been pitched to the old IRA anti treaty side.
They didn't mince there words really.

Funny you mention the JP Dalton's witness statement, I was looking at this list this morning and was wondering is it possible that there is a typo and that is should read P.J. Dalton. I'm going to visit the archives later this week and hopefully I will get a chance to look at the document.

I think that letter about the meeting is very interesting, because it may have been the impetus for the bulk of the Anti-Treaty IRA to cast aside their differences and join the National Army. No doubt it was tough for them having to face former comrades who they had fought with and against.