Old IRA Dublin Brigade

[capel street man]

Hello ailbhe, came across a reference to " F " Co. 4th Batt. Dublin Brigade in the book - " Dublin's Fighting Story 1916 - 21, Told By The Men Who Made It "

Attack on R.A.F Units at Red Cow Inn by Jim Donnelly

He goes into  detail of an ambush against members of the Royal Air Force stationed at Baldonnell Aerodrome carried out by members of " F " Co. 4th Batt.

It also states that " F " Co. took in the districts south of the Liffey, including the Dublin Union, Old and New Kilmainham, Inchicore, Ballyfermot, Fox and Geese etc.

Check the book out, it will give you an idea of what your relative was involved in.

CSM

[ailbhe]

Capel Street Man, Thanks a lot, I will check it out.

[tvpetre]

Hello all.

Found this site when I was looking up the 26th. Battalion Old IRA .Maybe someone can help me.
My Grand father had 2 medals . ( 1 Black and Tan & A service medal with 2 bars for his 26th. battalion service )
His name was Peter Smith and he never received an IRA pension it was said in the family that he fought for his country not a pension But I believe he may have been refused one as I think he was on the anti treaty side. His brother ( I was told died after been shot in the head and their mother would not attend the funeral ) My grand father  did have a military funeral in 1963  ( I remember that as I was a child at the time )

The only info I have is that his friend ( IRA Friend ) owned a shop in clonbrassill St. and the family spoke of him going to the IRA Hall in Thomas St.
My mother is his only living child and she is in her 80s she does not remember much .

Were do I start ??

[capel street man]

Hello typetre and welcome to the site.
To receive the medals, your grandfather would have had an army service record, he might have been a member of a battalion before the truce/ treaty, then joined the anti - treaty side.
Check the date of your grandfathers brothers death, if he was killed in the Civil War, there would have been a record and possibly, a newspaper report.
Your grandfather would have been entitled to a pension, but for reasons you might not find out now, he didn't follow it up, it didn't matter whether you were pro or anti - treaty, it was the timing of the application,
You will need to find out the date of birth of the your two relatives and known addresses at the time of the Troubles and if they changed address.
Have you checked the headstones of your relatives to see if there is a inscription?, are there any more brothers in the family who might have been involved ?
People are very friendly and helpfull on this site, so keep at it and good luck, let me know how you get on.

CSM

[kilmac24]

Conormac,
   I have for some time been trying to get some info on my uncle Michael Whelan
  The story goes that he was in the four courts in'22 and left the courts disguised as ambulance men  trying to get reinforcements. He then fled to the us as there was a price on his head. He never got a pension from the state as he did not return home until  the '50. 
 When he died he receive a gun salute and flag draped coffin on his death in 1975
 To date I can find no reference  to him in any area that I have looked.  Would be grateful for any info
   Kilmac 24

[capel street man]

Hello kilmac24 and welcome to the site.
There was a Thomas Whelan, member of C.Company 3rd Battalion, Dublin Brigade, he was executed on 14th March 1921 for his involvement in Bloody Sunday and is well documented.
Also the following Whelan,s made Witness Statements, which are held at the National Archives, Bishop Street , Dublin

J.Whelan, Waterford
Patrick J. Whelan, Cork
Patrick Whelan, Limerick
Patrick Whelan , Waterford
Sean Whelan , Wexford
William Whelan , Dublin

I cannot say if any of the above are related to you, but you could check them out, as I have said before, keep at it

Good luck

CSM

[tvpetre]

Thanks CSM

I never taught of checking my grand father head stone,
I must try and question my mother more.
It was only recently she told me about his brother
she gets very confused but sometimes she does remembers names.
The last time I questioned her she stated she carried a flag in the 25th. anniversary parade.
I have found his addresses  from the 1901 and 1911 census.
but it looks like they moved around quite a bit
I also know his address during the emergency.
 I think I have a lot of info but don't know what is fact or what is added on with time at this stage
Were could I check for a service record ? and what info would I need to get access to it.

Once again thanks very much for your help.

tvpetre

[Taidquest]

Hi, this website is a good source of information
and also has contact details at the bottom of the page.
From  personal experience they are very helpful.
                                                                Anne



http://www.military.ie/info-centre/military-archives

[Gary Deering]

Conormac,
   I have for some time been trying to get some info on my uncle Michael Whelan
  The story goes that he was in the four courts in'22 and left the courts disguised as ambulance men  trying to get reinforcements. He then fled to the us as there was a price on his head. He never got a pension from the state as he did not return home until  the '50. 
When he died he receive a gun salute and flag draped coffin on his death in 1975
To date I can find no reference  to him in any area that I have looked.  Would be grateful for any info
   Kilmac 24

Hi Kilmac, you might be lucky & find a newspaper article on the funeral, have a look on Irish Newspaper archive , It will cost you 10 euro a day , but is well worth it, also the Irish times archive again 10 euro for 24 hours.The last time I went on the Irish Times on, I found an article on my Great Gran Father getting a month in prison for his strike activies in 1911 ! Gary