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Re: Murray Family in Plasketts, Kielder
« Reply #9 on: Saturday 23 July 11 18:12 BST (UK) »
Can anyone please tell me when Plasketts was flooded was their a church and churchyard?  And if there was what happened to the graves already there!

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Re: Murray Family in Plasketts, Kielder
« Reply #10 on: Saturday 23 July 11 23:40 BST (UK) »
Keilder reservoir was flooded in 1970 but there was no church or chapel at Plashetts. The Anglican parish was Bellingham until Falstone church was re-established in 1824. The numerous Presbyterians worshipped at Falstone from much earlier under Scottish ministers.
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Re: Murray Family in Plasketts, Kielder
« Reply #11 on: Sunday 24 July 11 10:44 BST (UK) »
Hello Peter

Thank you kindly for the the information you sent me.

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Re: Murray Family in Plasketts, Kielder
« Reply #12 on: Sunday 24 July 11 15:33 BST (UK) »

 There was a Presbyterian chapel operating in Keilder.

Additionally this area was within the Wesleyian Methodist "circuit" operating out of Alston in Cumberland.

But burials were most likely to have been at Anglican Parish Church at Falstone, about 4 miles away.

Modern day photos and map can be seen on www.geograph.org.uk by entering NY6690

Ecclesiastically and administratively the community of Plashetts lay within the "township" of Plashetts & Tynehead, within the Parish of Falstone.

For Civil BMD registrations from 1837 Plashetts lay within the Bellingham Registration District ( then incorporated into 1936 into Northumberland West, based in Hexham.)

There was another community called Plashetts which lay within the "township" of Great Bavington, with the Parish of Kirkwhelpington.

For Geographia web site, ref = NY9681

In his book " Goodwife Hot, and others: Northumberland's Past in it's Place Names" Godfrey Watson writes.....

"Plessey Checks denotes a place where coal, coming from the nearby colliery, was checked, and is called after the family of " de Plessis", who, in turn, took their name from Plaissiet. The derivation of this French word is in itself worth looking at, for it also explains PLASHETTS, a name that appears at Bavington and again in Nooth Tynedale. It means land that has been enclosed by a Plashed or Plaited fence and therefore, probably, a Park "

*Plessey Checks and Plessey lay on the boundary of  Stannington and Cramlington parishes.
* The Bavington Plassetts is the one in Kirkwhelpington parish. The North Tynedale Plassetts is the Falstone one.


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Re: Murray Family in Plasketts, Kielder
« Reply #13 on: Sunday 24 July 11 21:18 BST (UK) »
Hello Micheal

Thanks for great information, I had wondered how Plasketts had got it name!  You seem to have a great knowledge of this area, which has helped me a great deal.
I asked the question about if there was a church in Plasketts because I was told there was only three streets in Plasketts and I thought one was called chapel Row another called shop Row and  the other I do not know.

Thank you again

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Re: Murray Family in Plasketts, Kielder
« Reply #14 on: Sunday 24 July 11 23:14 BST (UK) »
Oletta,

The 1901 census for Plashetts covers about 15 census pages ( From 4829-56-2).

The addresses for Plashetts include Pashetts Station, Brick Row ( where your Murrays were), Stone Row, Wood Row and the " Colliery"

The Northumberland Communities web site shows a photo of Stable Row, dated 1905. And there is also a photo of Wood Row dated 1905.

 No sign of a Chapel Row.

 So I can see evidence of four rows, but sometimes row names changed as years passed.

 In fact the 1911 only shows 3 rows, Stone Row (5 households) Wood Row
(6 h/hs) and Stable Row ( 8 h/hs). No sign of Brick Row, perhaps it became Stable Row ? ) Again no sihn of a Chapel Row.

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Re: Murray Family in Plasketts, Kielder
« Reply #15 on: Monday 25 July 11 15:35 BST (UK) »
As far as concerns graves, the present Anglican church at Falstone built 1891 is on the same site as that built in 1824 and burnt down in 1890. The earlier Anglican chapel re-established in 1724 was very close by. The first Presbyterian chapel built 1709 was formed from the medaeval ruin but replaced by a new chapel in 1735. This would be the only alternative burial place to Bellingham on the upper N Tyne.
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Re: Murray Family in Plasketts, Kielder
« Reply #16 on: Monday 25 July 11 21:04 BST (UK) »
Hello Michael and Peter

I cannot thank you both enough for all the information you have provided me with.

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Re: Murray Family in Plasketts, Kielder
« Reply #17 on: Thursday 08 September 11 09:24 BST (UK) »
Can anyone tell me any information about the Murray family living in Falstone, Bellingham. I struggling to find marriages and deaths for the following: Thomas Murray born 20 June 1890, Canonbie. James Murray born 17 July 1896, Canonbie, Christina Murray 12 Feb 1898, Margaret Murray born 23 Jul 1893, Canonbie, Jeanie Evelyn Murray born 1907, Falstone, Northumberland.  Their parents Benjamin and Agnes Murray (nee Irving) both died at Plasketts, Kielder.  It looks like Benjamin and Agnes moved from Canonbie to Plasketts, Kielder, probably for work.

There is now a separate thread about Christina here http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,551281.msg4045296.html#msg4045296
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