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Re: Death certificate - I need to prove the birth
« Reply #63 on: Thursday 05 May 11 09:31 BST (UK) »
Either way it has to be the right listing given all the indicators so I am happy lol  ;D

Happy ,but confused eh Nic ?

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« Reply #64 on: Thursday 05 May 11 09:34 BST (UK) »
Right so William married there ......... what year?  Sounds like they thought there was a better deal on North Island!  ;D

Have you found Wms exit UK and entry date to NZ yet?  Papers Past gives arrivals and departures sometimes lists steerage too and will also proably list the couples arrival at Manukau Harbour.
Ireland, Co Antrim: Kerr; Hollinger; Forsythe; Moore
Ireland, Co Louth: Carson; Leslie
Ireland, Co Kerry: Ferris
Scotland, Perthshire/Glasgow:  Stewart
England, Devon/Cornwall: Ferris, Gasser/Jasser/Jesser, Norman

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Re: Death certificate - I need to prove the birth
« Reply #65 on: Thursday 05 May 11 11:36 BST (UK) »
James was born in Timaru on 12 May 1881 (I have this certificate but it hasn't photographed well enough to read)
On the cert is says that William and Sarah were married in Timaru on 10th Ferbruary 1874 with James being the third born according to the list of births I have for them from the NZ BMD


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Re: Death certificate - I need to prove the birth
« Reply #66 on: Thursday 05 May 11 11:37 BST (UK) »
Going to search papers past - do you have a link?


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Re: Death certificate - I need to prove the birth
« Reply #67 on: Thursday 05 May 11 11:43 BST (UK) »
Unless of course he listed Manakau as his home town although his parents married and he was born in Timaru in the same way that everything else is mixed up on that listing maybe the census chap asked the wrong question?

The heading on the column in question is 'Birthplace' and part (2) would have been relevant - 'If born in any other part of the British Empire, write the name of the dependency, Colony, etc., and of the Province of State'. This would have been filled in by the head of the household - not by the census enumerator, who simply distributed the forms and then collected them after census day.

However quite often it seems that people entered where they thought they'd been born rather than the true place - if he'd lived in Manukau as a child he might have though he'd been born there although actually born elsewhere.
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« Reply #68 on: Thursday 05 May 11 11:44 BST (UK) »
Going to search papers past - do you have a link?

Fifer gave the link in reply 58  ;)
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« Reply #69 on: Thursday 05 May 11 11:47 BST (UK) »
Were all the children born in Timaru??  If not you may be able to identify an approximate time of moving North.
Ireland, Co Antrim: Kerr; Hollinger; Forsythe; Moore
Ireland, Co Louth: Carson; Leslie
Ireland, Co Kerry: Ferris
Scotland, Perthshire/Glasgow:  Stewart
England, Devon/Cornwall: Ferris, Gasser/Jasser/Jesser, Norman

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Re: Death certificate - I need to prove the birth
« Reply #70 on: Thursday 05 May 11 11:51 BST (UK) »
https://bdmhistoricalrecords.dia.govt.nz/Search/Search.aspx?Path=%2fqueryEntry.m%3ftype%3dbirths#SearchResults
In there I count 7 children. I have not ordered any certificates other than Jame's so I don't know where the others were born but James was in Timaru where they were married.

Sorry missed the link in all my excitement lol

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Re: Death certificate - I need to prove the birth
« Reply #71 on: Thursday 05 May 11 11:56 BST (UK) »
Just to tease you all the 'legend' from grandad was that someone connected with NZ performed some sort of rescue (likened to Grace Darling) and that is why they are braithwaite brown - whether it was William or James or even true at all (this is all from a drunken sailor remember lol) is anybodys guess but if you come across anything do let me know lol  :D