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Re: Death certificate - I need to prove the birth
« Reply #45 on: Wednesday 04 May 11 11:51 BST (UK) »
I think now we sit back and wait for Nic to reappear  ;)
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Re: Death certificate - I need to prove the birth
« Reply #46 on: Wednesday 04 May 11 11:55 BST (UK) »
bros and sisters

1877/5269   Brown    Margaret Annie       Sarah Ann   William
1878/17662   Brown    Isabella       Sarah Ann   William
1881/4919   Brown    James Braithwaite    Sarah Ann   William
1883/13646   Brown    Jessie          Sarah Ann   William
1885/20233   Brown    George Gordon       Sarah Ann   William
1888/3856   Brown    Thomas Braithwaite    Sarah Ann   William
1889/10319   Brown    Frederick Gilbert    Sarah Ann   William
Ireland, Co Antrim: Kerr; Hollinger; Forsythe; Moore
Ireland, Co Louth: Carson; Leslie
Ireland, Co Kerry: Ferris
Scotland, Perthshire/Glasgow:  Stewart
England, Devon/Cornwall: Ferris, Gasser/Jasser/Jesser, Norman

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Re: Death certificate - I need to prove the birth
« Reply #47 on: Wednesday 04 May 11 12:02 BST (UK) »
Add another brother born NZ

1875/14838   Brown    William Braithwaite    Sarah Anne   William

and brother Thomas death NZ

1889/3854   Brown    Thomas Braithwaite    1Y

Mick

ps found what I think is Nic's tree on Mundia
Jeffs - Northamptonshire to Leicestershire to Queensland, Australia
Lewis - Wales to Gloucestershire to NSW & Queensland, Australia
Iddols & Baylis - Gloucestershire
Mary Jones - born 1863 Staffordshire, died 1948 Queensland, Australia
daughter of James Jones and Eliza Aston
Dorans - Ireland to Scotland to Queensland, Australia
Ralph - Ireland to Scotland to Queensland, Australia
Jillett - Robert, Transported Convict from Surrey
Christison - Edinburgh,Scotland
Cameron - Edinburgh, Scotland

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Re: Death certificate - I need to prove the birth
« Reply #48 on: Wednesday 04 May 11 12:31 BST (UK) »
Isn't it fab how we all approach this from different angles with our own area's of expertease  8) and within about an hour we have the whole picture.

What a team  ;)

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Re: Death certificate - I need to prove the birth
« Reply #49 on: Wednesday 04 May 11 12:56 BST (UK) »
It's up to Nic to confirm but it seems pretty conclusive- the 2 year old was born at 6 Leader Street(transcribed as 60)

Mum born Islington and called Beatrice in previous censuses.

Using a combination of the various free indexes available we come up with this household in 1911:
 
James Brown born 1867 New North Rd Islington
Beatrice Brown born 1883, Manuhan Heads New Zealand
Charles Brown born 1909 60 Leader Street Chelsea
Jennie Brown 1910 49 Tidey Street Bow

A good mornings work I think  ;D

I think that's an error in recording or transcription perhaps should be Manukau Heads.
Ireland, Co Antrim: Kerr; Hollinger; Forsythe; Moore
Ireland, Co Louth: Carson; Leslie
Ireland, Co Kerry: Ferris
Scotland, Perthshire/Glasgow:  Stewart
England, Devon/Cornwall: Ferris, Gasser/Jasser/Jesser, Norman

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Re: Death certificate - I need to prove the birth
« Reply #50 on: Wednesday 04 May 11 14:15 BST (UK) »
Oh my goD I could kiss you all!!!!!!!  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Yes that is them! I can't believe it - I have the marriage of William and Sarah and the same as found all those children half of which share names with James's children
And the new zealand connection is what I needed to prove and this is it!
Its obvious that all the info has been put in the wrong way round and thats why I couldn't find any of it! No wonder I was going out of my tiny little mind lol

I can't thank you enough I really can't! It all marries up - grandad had said that there was at least another son older than edward of james' that had died very young so that edward frederick charles (obviously called charles) became the eldest - he is also probably the reason that my grandad (edward's grandson )is called charles as his first name in honor of him.

It all fits and is no longer such a big leap of faith!
I will post in the new zealand section what we have so that anyone looking for james's english crew can find us - or avoid us lol

Once again thank you all for the help!

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Re: Death certificate - I need to prove the birth
« Reply #51 on: Wednesday 04 May 11 14:36 BST (UK) »
Please wish your Grandad a very VERY happy 80th from us all!  :-* :-*
Ireland, Co Antrim: Kerr; Hollinger; Forsythe; Moore
Ireland, Co Louth: Carson; Leslie
Ireland, Co Kerry: Ferris
Scotland, Perthshire/Glasgow:  Stewart
England, Devon/Cornwall: Ferris, Gasser/Jasser/Jesser, Norman

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Re: Death certificate - I need to prove the birth
« Reply #52 on: Wednesday 04 May 11 14:39 BST (UK) »
Please wish your Grandad a very VERY happy 80th from us all!  :-* :-*

Seconded  :-*  :-*
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Re: Death certificate - I need to prove the birth
« Reply #53 on: Wednesday 04 May 11 14:47 BST (UK) »
Oh gosh yes! I have just phoned him but he is obviously out galavanting. Its funny but given that we were all east end londoners born and bred I always felt like I didn't belong in the city and ended moving to norfolk where we keep chickens - I would have sheep in a heartbeat but the husband needs more convincing and now I know where I get my farming genes from 5xgt grandad william!

He will be beaming when he hears the news no doubt xxx