Death certificate - I need to prove the birth

[Mutthouse]

I will look at 1911 again today it will be worth another few bob just to get this mystery solved

[carol8353]

This seems to be the birth of their son Edward. I'd search for him in 1911 rather than the parents.

Births Sep 1908   
 
Edward Frederick C BROWN    Chelsea  1a 364

[Mutthouse]

I have been searching for him and his mum clara in 1911 with no success, I have been cherry picking the most likely given that James was on the ships all his working life and they never strayed out of the east end and have just 10 credits left again now 

[rosie99]

I will look at 1911 again today it will be worth another few bob just to get this mystery solved

To try and save you some money have you looked at rootschat suggestions for finding people on the 1911 index  http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,492718.0.html
Are you in the UK as there are some places you can view the 1911 for free 
Rosie

[carol8353]

They just don't seem to be anywhere do they?

Do you have their 1906 marriage cert,with a name like Samuels,I'm guessing they didn't marry in a church?

If so what addresses does it have it on and who were the witnesses?

Carol

[JenB]

Do you have their 1906 marriage cert,with a name like Samuels,I'm guessing they didn't marry in a church?

Here's the certificate http://www.merchant-navy.net/forum/55508-post26.html

[JenB]

For what it's worth, in 1891 and 1901 Clara was going by her middle name of Beatrice - but possibly only because her mother's name was Clara.

RG 12 / 323 / 36 / 10 and RG 13 / 348 / 79 / 6

Birth - Clara Beatrice Samuels, 2nd q. 1883, Islington 1b 330

[Mutthouse]

Not sure if the link will work but this is the marriage certificate

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y141/mutthouse/jamesbraitwaitemarriage001.jpg

my grandad says that the marriage wasn't approved of by clara's family and they disowned her afterwards, but as you can see her brother Edward is there and someone called esther samuels who I am for the moment assuming is edwards wife but I daren't try and find out who she is or else my brain might explode lol
I have trawled through the 1901 census to see who was living at 5 chadbourne street just a year before they were living there and then got married but no brown's or samuels there at the time so can only guess that it was short term let

[carol8353]

If his dad is a sheep farmer I can't see him coming from many places in the UK!
Odd that none of his family witnessed it-another reason to suggest they weren't over here maybe.

Carol