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Re: Death certificate - I need to prove the birth
« Reply #54 on: Thursday 05 May 11 04:09 BST (UK) »
 :)  As a Kiwi, I would just check out that "Manahan Heads.  Actually, I've never heard of of it and think it could probably be Manakau Heads, which is one of the entrances to Auckland Harbour in the North Island.  Manakau itself was the third biggest city in New Zealand, although that may have changed with recent boundary changes in Auckland.  (I'm not an Aucklander so not up with the play up there)!  ;D

 Hope this is helpful, just thinking, kau can very easily look like han, if the reader is not familiar with Maori placenames.  Certainly not criticising, just a friendly observation.  Have another look and see if it could be Manakau

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Re: Death certificate - I need to prove the birth
« Reply #55 on: Thursday 05 May 11 07:42 BST (UK) »
Quote from: fifer1947 on Wednesday 04 May 11 12:56 BST (UK)
I think that's an error in recording or transcription perhaps should be Manukau Heads.

Yes Fifer did come up with that suggestion yesterday.The writing on the census image is horrendous and all over the place so it;s hardly surprising that neither us nor the transcriber could read it properly  ::)


Thank you  ;D

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Re: Death certificate - I need to prove the birth
« Reply #56 on: Thursday 05 May 11 07:53 BST (UK) »
Oops, sorry Fifer, Looking back at it, I think I must have answered that when I read the "Manahan" and just dived straight in the deep end without reading down at the posts that followed.  LOL

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« Reply #57 on: Thursday 05 May 11 08:14 BST (UK) »
Don't worry Jeanne- it turned out to be a very long thread in the end.
But between us we got there.

It's great to have a bit of NZ geography though  ;D

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Re: Death certificate - I need to prove the birth
« Reply #58 on: Thursday 05 May 11 08:25 BST (UK) »
Easy to miss my post there Jeanne.  ;)

Nic have you seen the pics?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manukau_Heads

a few on here
http://www.flickr.com/photos/sondyaustin/635358062/

Loads on Manukau Harbour on Papers Past too.
http://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/cgi-bin/paperspast
always worth doing the back up research!  Just think of the fun for your Grandad!
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Ireland, Co Louth: Carson; Leslie
Ireland, Co Kerry: Ferris
Scotland, Perthshire/Glasgow:  Stewart
England, Devon/Cornwall: Ferris, Gasser/Jasser/Jesser, Norman

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« Reply #59 on: Thursday 05 May 11 08:39 BST (UK) »
Wow that is beautiful  ;D

Looks like they sailed in to Auckland harbour from England and decided it was so nice they never moved any further into NZ,  and settled in that area,until grandad sailed back to good old blighty when he was old enough  ;)

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Re: Death certificate - I need to prove the birth
« Reply #60 on: Thursday 05 May 11 09:16 BST (UK) »
Is it far from Timaru? Thats where they were married which is also apparently a port.
Would James have been able to join the merchant navy from there do you think?

It is absolutely fascinating  ;D

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Re: Death certificate - I need to prove the birth
« Reply #61 on: Thursday 05 May 11 09:20 BST (UK) »
Timaru is not on North Island it's on South Island between Christchurch and Dunedin so a fair old distance.  I suspect he was already off on his travels!

1213 km or 755 miles between Manukau Heads and Timaru.
Ireland, Co Antrim: Kerr; Hollinger; Forsythe; Moore
Ireland, Co Louth: Carson; Leslie
Ireland, Co Kerry: Ferris
Scotland, Perthshire/Glasgow:  Stewart
England, Devon/Cornwall: Ferris, Gasser/Jasser/Jesser, Norman

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Re: Death certificate - I need to prove the birth
« Reply #62 on: Thursday 05 May 11 09:27 BST (UK) »
It would have been where his parents married. William and Sarah so maybe they married there on their arrival - unless of course its just where things are registered?!?
Unless of course he listed Manakau as his home town although his parents married and he was born in Timaru in the same way that everything else is mixed up on that listing maybe the census chap asked the wrong question?
Either way it has to be the right listing given all the indicators so I am happy lol  ;D
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