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Re: KIRKHILL BURIAL GROUND - CAMBUSNETHAN PARISH
« Reply #18 on: Monday 21 January 13 15:46 GMT (UK) »
She's not mentioned in anything I have for Kirkhill but I don't have pictures of all the surviving stones and the burial records are non existant until the late 19th century.
Who was she? Is Law her maiden name? Do you know her parents names?
Paterson, Torrance, Gilchrist - Hamilton Lanarkshire. 
McCallum - Oban, McKechnie - Ross of Mull Argyll.
Scrim - Perthshire. 
Liddell - Polmont,
Binnie - Muiravonside Stirlingshire.
Curran, McCafferty, Stevenson, McCue - Co Donegal
Gibbons, Weldon - Co Mayo.
Devlin - Co Tyrone.
Leonard - County Donegal & Glasgow.

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« Reply #19 on: Monday 21 January 13 19:35 GMT (UK) »
Hi,  Thankyou for your reply.   I just gave the name McPhail, silly me there must be thousands!! sorry.   Henry and Agnes McPhail (nee Lafferty)   Also a relative Jane Blair    Henry Died 1878  Agnes his wife Died December 1862  (her two little children William and Henry died one in november 1865 and the other December the three died of Typhoid poor souls!)  Jane died I believe 1886.  They came over from Ireland 1850's    Hope this helps   Thankyou June

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Re: KIRKHILL BURIAL GROUND - CAMBUSNETHAN PARISH
« Reply #20 on: Monday 21 January 13 21:36 GMT (UK) »
They are all buried in the municipal cemetery at Cambusnethan village, (not in Kirkhill, the burial ground that this thread is concerned with).

Here's what I found, please remember that the Victorian records have gaps, I couldn't find Jane Blair for example, she must have been buried in a paupers grave and the paupers records for that year have not survived.

All the following dates are of burial.

HENRY McPHAIL, Wishaw, aged 8 years.
Parents - Henry McPhail & Agnes Lafferty.
Buried in common ground (pauper's grave) 22nd November 1862.

WILLIAM McPHAIL, Wishaw, aged 3 years.
Parents - Henry McPhail & Agnes Lafferty.
Buried in common ground on 3rd December 1862.

AGNES McPHAIL, housewife, Wishaw, aged 32 years, married.
Parents - William Lafferty & Margaret Blair.
Buried in common ground on 17th December 1862.

Although Agnes and her 2 sons are in common ground, remarkably they are all three in the same grave, number 138. The gravedigger must have gone out of his way to do this.

To continue -

HENRY McPHAIL, labourer, Wishaw, aged 57 years, widower.
Parents - Archibald McPhail & Margaret Crichton.
Buried in common ground on 30th March 1878.

ARCHIBALD McPHAIL, tailor, Wishaw, aged 33 years, married.
Parents - Henry McPhail & Nancy Lafferty.
Buried in private plot E55 on 7th August 1896.

In plot E56 are the following - (my guess is a double plot)

ISABELLA W. McPHAIL, wishaw, aged 1 year.
Parents - Matthew McPhail & Marion Ballantyne.
Buried in plot E56 on 28th April 1900.

MARION McPHAIL, Wishaw, aged 2 years.
Parents - George McPhail & Isabella Wyper.
Buried in plot E56 on 25th November 1893.

Also,

STILLBORN FEMALE McPHAIL, Wishaw.
Parents - Henry McPhail & Isabella Fleming.
Buried in common ground on 22nd October 1906.

Hope this leads you somewhere!
Paterson, Torrance, Gilchrist - Hamilton Lanarkshire. 
McCallum - Oban, McKechnie - Ross of Mull Argyll.
Scrim - Perthshire. 
Liddell - Polmont,
Binnie - Muiravonside Stirlingshire.
Curran, McCafferty, Stevenson, McCue - Co Donegal
Gibbons, Weldon - Co Mayo.
Devlin - Co Tyrone.
Leonard - County Donegal & Glasgow.

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« Reply #21 on: Tuesday 22 January 13 11:03 GMT (UK) »
 :) Thankyou very much for your speedy reply, you are a star!   I am coming up to Motherwell in April, and thought I could visit these if possible, I will find out where it is not too familiar with Cambusnethan.   Poor Jane Blair, Iam so sad her grave can not be found, my heart goes out to her, she lived in the same address as Henry and Agnes when all this trauma was going on, nurse her other remaining nephews (George, my ancester and Archibald, who is in your list as dying at 33years old) until she was 60ish in 1886, in the family house in Caledonian Road, I owe her a lot and would not be here if she hadnt been so dedicated to the family! :( :(   So a paupers grave seems not right as Archibald and George would have surely looked after her??  Anyway, I also have Muirhead  Leggat   etc... spouses of the McPhail family to search so will continue  I am so grateful for the rootschat site you are all very dedicated and we are glad you are there.  June   PS Re: Henry and Agnes marriage in Ireland Parish of Banagher is the next line of search have proof of the date of marriage its just getting the transcript for more info about their parents so I have lots to do.


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Re: KIRKHILL BURIAL GROUND - CAMBUSNETHAN PARISH
« Reply #22 on: Tuesday 22 January 13 18:31 GMT (UK) »
Putting Leggate & Muirhead into the search only brings up one more entry -

STILLBORN MALE McPHAIL, Wishaw.
Parents - Archibald McPhail & jeannie Leggate.
Buried in plot C73 on 13th October 1890.
Paterson, Torrance, Gilchrist - Hamilton Lanarkshire. 
McCallum - Oban, McKechnie - Ross of Mull Argyll.
Scrim - Perthshire. 
Liddell - Polmont,
Binnie - Muiravonside Stirlingshire.
Curran, McCafferty, Stevenson, McCue - Co Donegal
Gibbons, Weldon - Co Mayo.
Devlin - Co Tyrone.
Leonard - County Donegal & Glasgow.

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« Reply #23 on: Tuesday 22 January 13 19:46 GMT (UK) »
HI,   Archibald ( Henry and Agnes son born 1862)  married Jeannie Leggate yes thats right.  Muirhead comes in as the husband of Jane McPhail (Henry and Agnes daughter)  She died 1927 in Wishaw her son William I believe lived in England as he signed her death certificate, her husband died before her.  She was born 1856!  She was 70 when she died and considering she was in the house where there was Typhoid well she must have been strong.  Can you enlighten me as to Jane Blair, you think she is buried in the Cambusnethan Village but no record or no grave?  I am looking forward to seeing these graves is it quite easy to get to them in Cambusnethan or are they overgrown?  Thankyou for your trouble in searching.  June

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« Reply #24 on: Tuesday 22 January 13 20:35 GMT (UK) »
If you visit Cambusnethan cemetery during normal working hours the gravediggers will take you to the plots (E55 & 56 and C73) where there may or may not be headstones. It is not overgrown but it is a large cemetery, so be sure to go there during working hours.
They will not be able to show you individual paupers graves but may (but probably not) be able to show you the general area.
As for Jane Blair, if she died in Cambusnethan parish she is probably buried in the cemetery but, with the common ground burials for that year being unavailable there isn't much you can do I'm afraid.
Remember to take the plot references with you!

This is what the old part of the cemetery looks like, I think this is section C.

Paterson, Torrance, Gilchrist - Hamilton Lanarkshire. 
McCallum - Oban, McKechnie - Ross of Mull Argyll.
Scrim - Perthshire. 
Liddell - Polmont,
Binnie - Muiravonside Stirlingshire.
Curran, McCafferty, Stevenson, McCue - Co Donegal
Gibbons, Weldon - Co Mayo.
Devlin - Co Tyrone.
Leonard - County Donegal & Glasgow.

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« Reply #25 on: Tuesday 22 January 13 21:04 GMT (UK) »
    I will thankyou,  I thank you for the picture too.  I will get in touch when I return and let you know the outcome.

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« Reply #26 on: Monday 11 February 13 20:32 GMT (UK) »
Hi   Thankyou for your help on my searches  I have the information I need.