Would love some help in my search for the parents of Charles Crymble 1795

[meadowhawk]

Hello all,

This is my first time using the Roots Chat site so please steer me in the right direction if I'm not doing this correctly.

I've been searching for the parents of Charles Crymble (my great, great, great grandfather) without much success.  Here's what I know for sure from his original family register given to me by my mother:

l.  On this register as well as several US census reports, he lists his origin as Newtownards, County Down, Ireland.

2.  His date of birth was March 18, 1795.

3.  He emigrated to the US sometime between 1795 & 1826, settled in Embden, Maine and married Martha Thompson on April 30, 1826.  Was married by a JP but no info on his parents.  Unsure whether he came over from Ireland alone, with family members or if he had any siblings.

4.  The US census indicates he was a farmer.

5.  They had seven children:
Lucius Connor  Crymble   October 16, 1826
Margaret H.  January 25, 1828  (only survived for two months)
Nelson   January 29, 1829
John H.   November 1, 1830
Martha   October 21, 1832
Charles Jr.  July 9, 1835  (Served & was wounded in the Civil War - 3rd Maine Infantry
Caldow (? G)  17, 1838

Just recently I got  the "only" exact match from a record found in  LDS - as follows:  "Birth about 1790, Carnmoney, Antrim, Ireland" with the message:  "Record submitted after 1991 by a member of the LDS Church.  No additional information is available.  Ancestral File may list the same family and the submitter."

Now, I've hit a roadblock again and can't seem to get any further.    Would appreciate any help you can give me regarding parents names, marriage date, occupation.  Perhaps there is a connection to England for the parents, but unsure.

Thanks so much for your time. 

Meadowhawk

in Maine USA

[RosemaryJoan]

This is a quote from Roz Davies' Co Down site

 Lucius Crymble of Great Francis St, Newtownards; husband of Jane Gordon; father of George Gordon Crymble b. 6 Mar & bpt. 8 Mar 1835 & Jane Gordon Crymble b. 13 Jul & bpt. 8 Jun 1838 at 1st Newtownards Presbyterian Church leased a house, offices & yard in 1863 from James Martin; witness at numerous weddings at 1st Newtownards Presbyterian Church 1845- 1861.

I suppose this could be your Charles's brother?
Here is the link to Roz's site

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~rosdavies/SURNAMES/Afrontpage.htm

RosemaryJoan

 

[RosemaryJoan]

Here is a link to the LDS Pilot Site with some more information re Lucius Crymble

http://pilot.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#surname=Crymble&searchType=close&p=recordResults&alivePlaceLoc1=Ireland&placeId=1927084&givenName=Lucius


and here is a link to an interesting website about Newtownards

http://www.derek-beattie.comxa.com/family-crymble.htm


RosemaryJoan

[aghadowey]

Welcome to Rootschat. I see that you've already gotten some help but just in case the submitted LDS record is correct and the Crymbles were from Carnmoney- we've lots of transcribed baptisms (thanks to member DixieDee) from Carnmoney Presbyterian Church starting in 1799 under ANTRIM RESOURCES and there are Crymbles in the congregation.
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,521542.0.html

[meadowhawk]

Thanks so very much for the quick responses I received today.  I'll check out the three leads given and will let you know what I find out.

I'm loving this site and how nice folks are about helping a "very extended" family member.

Thanks again for making me feel welcomed. ~;O) Meadowhawk

[RosemaryJoan]

Meadowhawk - I was drawn to the Crymble surname as I used to buy music in Crymble's piano and music shop in Belfast.
I am more and more convinced that the Lucius Crymble of Belfast
is the same one who then lived in Newtownards.

This is from the 1854 Belfast Street Directory
J. Crymble, day constable, 31, Little George's Street
Lucius Crymble, precentor, 9, Lancaster Street
Matthew Crymble of Craig, Liddle and Crymble, Fountain Street ... 9, Lancaster Street
Miss Crymble, dressmaker, 9, Lancaster Street
Mrs Ann Crymble, 100, Cromac Street


A precentor was a choirmaster, or one who led the singing in church.  A lot of the Presbyterian churches had a person who used a tuning fork to get the note and then led the singing - my grandfather was one of those people.

In 1861, Lucius is a Professor of Music and his son is running a piano warehouse.

I have looked at various marriages  for the children of Lucius and I feel sure that there was only one Lucius, who was born in 1799, married Jane Gordon and died early in 1881, death registered in Belfast.


I feel that these people are all very closely connected to your Charles.
One of Lucius's children, Jane, married in May Street Presbyterian Church in Belfast and perhaps that is where her father was connected while living in Belfast.  Perhaps we can get some kind rootschatter to have a look at May Street Presbyterian Records.

RosemaryJoan

[meadowhawk]

Thank you once again for the additional information.   I'm feeling more certain that this Lucius may indeed be Charle's brother and perhaps why (after moving to the US) named his first son after Lucius.  Looks like I may be getting closer to discovering their parents names and any birth records that would show Lucius and Charles Crymble were brothers and may even indicate other siblings as well. 

A special note to Rosemary Joan - Loved the story and history you shared with me.  It's the little things like that which make it all the more real.   I could almost picture the little music store as I read your note.  There are several in my family who were/are musicians on some level (I, unfortunately) am not one of them).  My grandmother played the organ and my son plays guitar well and dabbles at the piano.

One of the links you provided wouldn't allow me access, but all the others did.   So, I'll keep at it and hopefully continue to find more clues in the process, but I do tend to agree with you that it looks like these two were most likely from the same family.  Perhaps there are descendents who are living in or near this same area today.    Exciting stuff either way...and I thank you all again!

Meadowhawk - Maine USA

[RosemaryJoan]

Meadowhawk -  Try this link again

http://www.derek-beattie.comxa.com/family-crymble.htm


It seems to have an intermittant fault, but if you keep trying it will eventually open a page about the Crymbles of Newtownards.
Rosemary Joan

[worldlywanderer]

May I add to this mystery. There is a plot in Belfast's City Cemetery with several Cymble internments. https://ssl.belfastcity.gov.uk/burialsearch/BurialSearch.aspx?GraveSection=K&GraveNumber=216&CemeteryName=City%20Cemetery. My interest is in the last person in the list Miss Isabella Pendleton. Whatever I wonder led to her being the first person in this plot? Could she be a valued family servant or a sister of Matthew Crymble's wife who seems not to be interred here?