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1861/1871 census Devonshire - BOWDEN
« on: Monday 25 April 05 06:52 BST (UK) »
Hi all,

Hopeing someone can check the 1861 or 1871 census for the following families:

William Bowden Head b. ~1810 occ Farmer/Maltster b. Devon
Cecilia/Sicilia Bowden Wife b. 1810 Chepstow, Monmouth
Frances Bowden Dau b. 1839 Bristol
William Henry Bowden Son b. 1842 Instow, Devon

also:

John Bowden Head b. 1781 West Down, Devon occ farmer
Frances Bowden Wife b. 1788 Instow, Devon

Both were living in Instow Town in the 1851 census

Thanks so much

Jenny
Clark, Sommerlad, Bowden, Barrett, Griffey, Sayers, Bridge, Walters, Pollard, Capel, Dibble, James, Lingard, Mensforth, Watts, Rutherford, Stainton, Chatterton, Tubbs, Thompson, Fulton, Booth, Sellwood, Edwards, Pitcher, Creech, Johns, Phillips, Roberts, Keast, Tregonning, Mason, Lancefield, Ibberson, Green, Case, Cook, Dunham, Porter, Pope, Hall, Welsh, Hellefield, Warburton, Fletcher, Foster, Stiles, Tait, Nicoll, Sutherland, McIntyre, Cole, Neal, Ladlow, Bellamy, Castleton, Barker, Yuill

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Re: 1861/1871 census Devonshire - BOWDEN
« Reply #1 on: Friday 29 April 05 15:05 BST (UK) »
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Hi Jenny,
This was all I was able to find out for you.

1861 Census. William Bowden Born. 1813. Widower. Labourer.
living at Instow Village, Devon. Age. 48

1871 Census. William Bowden. Widower. Age 58. Labourer. Still at the same address, but living with him at that time was Thomas Pidler. Grandson. Born 1859. at Instow, Devon.

I had no luck with John & Francis Bowden.
I hope this is of some help.
Sandra.

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Re: 1861/1871 census Devonshire - BOWDEN
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 30 April 05 07:28 BST (UK) »
Hi Sandra,

That's fantastic  ;D I had assumed that William may have been a widower by the census and this gives me more information regarding his daughter's marriage...Pidler hey....another link to follow..

John and Frances would also have been very old by then so that is no surprise  :)

Thanks so much

Jenny
Clark, Sommerlad, Bowden, Barrett, Griffey, Sayers, Bridge, Walters, Pollard, Capel, Dibble, James, Lingard, Mensforth, Watts, Rutherford, Stainton, Chatterton, Tubbs, Thompson, Fulton, Booth, Sellwood, Edwards, Pitcher, Creech, Johns, Phillips, Roberts, Keast, Tregonning, Mason, Lancefield, Ibberson, Green, Case, Cook, Dunham, Porter, Pope, Hall, Welsh, Hellefield, Warburton, Fletcher, Foster, Stiles, Tait, Nicoll, Sutherland, McIntyre, Cole, Neal, Ladlow, Bellamy, Castleton, Barker, Yuill

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Re: 1861/1871 census Devonshire - BOWDEN
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 30 April 05 07:51 BST (UK) »
Sandra,

Would it be possible for you to check the 1861 and 1871 census for this family too:

Alexander Pidler/Pedler Head b. ? age ?
Frances Pidler/Pedler Wife b. 1839 Bristol
Thomas Pidler/Pedler Son b. 1859 Instow, Devon
Alexander Pidler/Pedler Son b. 1860 Instow, Devon

Thanks so much  :)

Jenny
Clark, Sommerlad, Bowden, Barrett, Griffey, Sayers, Bridge, Walters, Pollard, Capel, Dibble, James, Lingard, Mensforth, Watts, Rutherford, Stainton, Chatterton, Tubbs, Thompson, Fulton, Booth, Sellwood, Edwards, Pitcher, Creech, Johns, Phillips, Roberts, Keast, Tregonning, Mason, Lancefield, Ibberson, Green, Case, Cook, Dunham, Porter, Pope, Hall, Welsh, Hellefield, Warburton, Fletcher, Foster, Stiles, Tait, Nicoll, Sutherland, McIntyre, Cole, Neal, Ladlow, Bellamy, Castleton, Barker, Yuill


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Re: 1861/1871 census Devonshire - BOWDEN
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 30 April 05 16:32 BST (UK) »
Hi Jen. Me again.  :o
I have the CD. Rom of the 1851 Devon census. Thought this might be usefull to you.

John Bowden. Head . Married. Age. 70. Farmer of 16 acres. Born. West Down, Devon.

Francis Bowden. Wife. Age. 63. Born Instow, Devon.

William H. Bowden. Grandson. Age. 9. Scholar. Born Instow, Devon.

Ann Servord. Daughter. Married. Age. 26. Dressmaker. Born Instow, Devon.

John Servord, Grandson. Age. 1. Born Instow, Devon.

Address. Instow Town, Barnstaple, Devonshire.

Sandra.

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Re: 1861/1871 census Devonshire - BOWDEN
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 30 April 05 17:12 BST (UK) »
Hi Jen. Wow those Pidlers not easy to find. But I did manage to come up with this.
1861. Census (The only place I could find them)

Alexander Pedlar. Head. Married. Grocer & Gardener. Born. 1800. Abbotsham, Devon.

Alexander Pedlar. Son. WIDOWER. Butcher. Born 1833. Parkham, Devon.

Alfred Pedlar. Grandson. Born. 1858. Instow, Devon.

Caroline Carrol Pedlar. Daughter. Born. 1850. Instow, Devon.

Mary Pedlar. Daughter. Born. 1841. Instow, Devon.

Sarah Elia Pedlar. Wife. Born 1802. Abbotsham, Devon.

Sarah Elia Pedlar. Daughter. Born. 1843. Instow, Devon, Dressmaker.

Susanah Pedlar. Daughter. Born. 1845. Instow, Devon.

Thomas Pedlar. Grandson. Born. 1860. Instow, Devon.

Address. Lane End, Instow, Devon.
No sign of Alexander Jr. on this census.
Hope this is what you need.
Sandra. :) :) :) :)

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Re: 1861/1871 census Devonshire - BOWDEN
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 30 April 05 17:29 BST (UK) »
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Jen I could not resist looking on the 1851 Census for your Pidler family. Seems it was a lot larger that year. So all that info is below.

Alexander Pidler. Head. Married. Age, 51. Gardener.

Sarah Pidler. Wife. Age. 48.

Elizabeth A. Pidler. Daughter. Age. 21. Born. Parkham, Devon.

Alexander Pidler. Son. Age. 18. Footman. Born. Parkham, Devon.

Christopher Pidler. Son. Age. 14. Labourer. Born. Alwington, Devon.

Robert Pidler. Son. Age. 12. Born Instow, Devon. Labourer.

Joseph Pidler. (Twin). Son. Age. 10. Born Instow.

Mary Pidler. (Twin). Daughter. Age. 10. Born. Instow,

Sarah Pidler. Daughter. Age. 8. Born. Instow.

Susanna Pidler. Daughter. Age. 5. Born. Instow.

Caroline Pidler. Daughter. Age. 1. Born Instow.

At that time it also shows living with them
Ann Cragg. Servant. Age. 20. Unmarried. Born, Frithelstock, Devon.

The address in 1851 was still Lane End, Instow, Barnstaple, Devon.
So I'm sure this is the same family regardless of the misspelling on the 1861 Census.

Good Luck with all of this.
Sandra.  ;) ;)

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Re: 1861/1871 census Devonshire - BOWDEN
« Reply #7 on: Monday 02 May 05 09:11 BST (UK) »
Hi Sandra,

Thank you so much for all the information you have given me  ;D

It makes sense to me now I think, it looks like Alexander Pedler/Pidler (b 1833) married Frances Bowden and had two sons Alfred and Thomas - then lost his wife (possibly in child birth?) How sad  :'(

I will now start looking for her death record to make sure. I certainly am glad to have sorted this one out! Low and behold these Bowden's are starting to make some sense!!

Thanks so much

Jenny
Clark, Sommerlad, Bowden, Barrett, Griffey, Sayers, Bridge, Walters, Pollard, Capel, Dibble, James, Lingard, Mensforth, Watts, Rutherford, Stainton, Chatterton, Tubbs, Thompson, Fulton, Booth, Sellwood, Edwards, Pitcher, Creech, Johns, Phillips, Roberts, Keast, Tregonning, Mason, Lancefield, Ibberson, Green, Case, Cook, Dunham, Porter, Pope, Hall, Welsh, Hellefield, Warburton, Fletcher, Foster, Stiles, Tait, Nicoll, Sutherland, McIntyre, Cole, Neal, Ladlow, Bellamy, Castleton, Barker, Yuill

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Re: 1861/1871 census Devonshire - BOWDEN
« Reply #8 on: Monday 02 May 05 14:16 BST (UK) »
You are more than welcome Jen. Glad I could help some in your quest.
Happy Hunting.
Sandra. :) :)