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Clyne/McClain/McLean c1874/75 Berwick upon Tweed
« on: Sunday 01 May 11 19:49 BST (UK) »
This is my brick wall. I know almost everything about my grandmother but despite years of searching I can't find her birth. The extended family usually had their children baptised in the RC Church, Berwick but Mary Ann is not there.
I will try to keep all the information as simple as possible.
Mary Ann Clyne [ in census records in Scotland the surname was McClain or McLean]
        mother: Rebecca Clyne who was baptised in Berwick 1854 - daur of Michael Clyne and Rebecca
                      Higgins
                      1879  Rebecca married William Collin in the Church of Scotland, Eyemouth.
                      There was a son James Collin b 1881, Berwick who was not in the RC records.
                      After that there were 2 children baptised in the RC Church Berwick.
1881 Eyemouth
Mary Ann McClain , 6 step-daughter of William Collin; mother Rebecca; born Berwick.
1891 Eyemouth
Mary A Clyne,  17, step daur, Gen Ser, born Berwick on Tweed
1901 Chirnside
Mary Ann McLean Collin, 26, daur, Paper Finisher, born England
1901 Marriage, Chirnside
Mary Anne [Clym] Collin - but mother's maiden name given as McLean [Rebecca]; father William Collin
Every time I come back to this I feel I should be able to find her so I trawl through the births again. I have also been to Edinburgh to look at the records there, but, again, no success.
If anyone can come up with any ideas I will be so, so grateful!
Thanks for reading this far!
Rae
                     
All UK Census Transcriptions are Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

Cline: Ireland and Berwick on Twieed
Collin: Eyemouth
Clyne: Ireland, Berwickshire, Northumberland
Barns, Barnes: Fife
Walker: Edinburgh & Stirling
Laing, Wilson, Forrest, Forrester, Colven, Rae, Cowe, Buglass, Johnson, Wilson, Thorburn, Darling, Broomfield, : Berwickshire
McRaw, Cameron, Taylor, Gould/Guild, McIntyre, Maxton, McDonald, Douglass : Perthshire
Cormack, Campbell, Sutherland, Doull: Caithness

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Re: Clyne/McClain/McLean c1874/75 Berwick upon Tweed
« Reply #1 on: Monday 02 May 11 00:41 BST (UK) »
Hi

Failure to register a birth only became a fineable offence in 1874/75.  Even then - many births still went unregistered (although not as many as prior to 1874/5)

My great grandmother was b 1877 Liverpool and although I have her christening record which includes her actual birthdate - there is no birth reg for her

Illegitimate births were particularly vulnerable to non-registration around that time
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Carlin (Ireland & Liverpool) Doughty & Wright (Liverpool) Dick & Park (Scotland & Liverpool)

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Re: Clyne/McClain/McLean c1874/75 Berwick upon Tweed
« Reply #2 on: Monday 02 May 11 11:59 BST (UK) »
Thanks for that, CaroleW. I suppose I will have to look elsewhere for christening records, if there are any. Somehow I think this may be a lost cause. I am very happy with all the information I have found over the years so in that respect I am very lucky.
Rae
All UK Census Transcriptions are Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

Cline: Ireland and Berwick on Twieed
Collin: Eyemouth
Clyne: Ireland, Berwickshire, Northumberland
Barns, Barnes: Fife
Walker: Edinburgh & Stirling
Laing, Wilson, Forrest, Forrester, Colven, Rae, Cowe, Buglass, Johnson, Wilson, Thorburn, Darling, Broomfield, : Berwickshire
McRaw, Cameron, Taylor, Gould/Guild, McIntyre, Maxton, McDonald, Douglass : Perthshire
Cormack, Campbell, Sutherland, Doull: Caithness

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Re: Clyne/McClain/McLean c1874/75 Berwick upon Tweed
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 16 May 12 00:07 BST (UK) »
From gcoll name of collin  in the town of Eyemouth, difficult there were hundreds of them and they all had nicknames. Late 1800s the great disaster of 14 October 1881. 189 men of the towns eyemouth, coldindham burnmouth, lost there lives in one night, of the 189 men 27 had the name   of Collin. See the book An Old time fishing town. Eyemouth  by Rev Daniel M, Iver. Hope this is of some interest to you.     G.
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Re: Clyne/McClain/McLean c1874/75 Berwick upon Tweed
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 16 May 12 10:00 BST (UK) »
Hi gcoll,
Thank you for taking the time to reply.
I know the area well as went to school there - many years ago! At that time didn't know about the half-connection to relatives in Eyemouth. Still no further forward as to her birth but it may turn up one of these days. Ever hopeful!
Rae
All UK Census Transcriptions are Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

Cline: Ireland and Berwick on Twieed
Collin: Eyemouth
Clyne: Ireland, Berwickshire, Northumberland
Barns, Barnes: Fife
Walker: Edinburgh & Stirling
Laing, Wilson, Forrest, Forrester, Colven, Rae, Cowe, Buglass, Johnson, Wilson, Thorburn, Darling, Broomfield, : Berwickshire
McRaw, Cameron, Taylor, Gould/Guild, McIntyre, Maxton, McDonald, Douglass : Perthshire
Cormack, Campbell, Sutherland, Doull: Caithness