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Re: DNA testing - genetic genealogy
« Reply #288 on: Wednesday 29 June 11 15:56 BST (UK) »
Thanks Temic for a comprehensive reply. You refer to "digging up grandad" to be certain. If it were a possibility it might come to that in my case! The husband of my grandmother was at least 71 when my father was born. I have taken a 37 marker Y chromosome test, and so far I have no certain matches with my own surname, which is quite scarce. One person with whom I have a possible 400 year old paper connection matches 33/37 markers, but is of a different haplotype, his J mine I. In view of the scarcity of the surname I have asked FTDNA  if we could be related. They replied the match was co-incidence, and I have asked them (twice) if an error has been made. There has so far been no reply, this question is either too difficult or they are now ignoring my requests. I have a 36/37 match with a person with a different surname, and both families were in the same area between 1795 and 1900 when any unofficial adoption or illicit relationship must have occured.
As I say I have no certain match with my own surname,  neither does the other man have with his, so we remain somewhat in limbo until either FTDNA respond, or further tests refine the results.
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Re: DNA testing - genetic genealogy
« Reply #289 on: Friday 29 July 11 15:29 BST (UK) »
For any R1b L21s out there a new sub-clade has been revealed by the 1000 Genomes project.  :) It actually consists of 6-8 SNPs nested under one another and so offers a way of separating out and dating its different sub-branches.

The sub-clade is defined by the SNP called DF21, and initial estimates predict 9-15% of all L21s will be in this branch. From early results it seems to include Irish, Welsh and English L21s, but the sub-clade is so old (definitely over 2000 years old and possibly over 3000 years) that there are no common STRs that define the sub-clade.

Initial theories for a common link between group members focusses on Iron Age Britain, but as with all origin theories this starts entering chronic "head-banging" terrritory  ;D, especially at such an early stage of testing & research.

A project has been set up to research this group:- http://www.familytreedna.com/public/R-DF21/default.aspx

Any L21s interested in testing for DF21, DF5, or any of the other SNPs, should note that DF21 appears to be parallel to M222, L513 and Scots Modal, so anyone in those groups has no need to test.

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Re: DNA testing - genetic genealogy
« Reply #290 on: Friday 29 July 11 15:39 BST (UK) »
To add to the previous post, I don't know if anyone has posted it here before but a good history site, that is pretty good at keeping up to date with the latest DNA research, is:- http://www.buildinghistory.org/distantpast/peoplingeurope.shtml

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Re: DNA testing - genetic genealogy
« Reply #291 on: Tuesday 13 March 12 17:57 GMT (UK) »
Having   just   read  this thread,  as   considering a  DNA test   for  sons  male line,I  am  even  more  confused.

Does  anyone  know   what Ancestry (DNA test) is  bringing  out   soon.  And  is  it  really anything   new or  useful.

Thanks


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« Reply #292 on: Tuesday 13 March 12 18:35 GMT (UK) »
I make you the following suggestions: There are several threads about DNA on this site, just use the search facility and you will bring them all up; hopefully you will clear the confusion. A male DNA test is a test on markers on the Y chromsome and will give your son's male lineage. Several companies offer the test, but I used FTDNA of Houston Texas, as their price was competitive; special offers are often available at major family history events. You will need a test of at least 37 markers, and the cost will probably be £80 sterling upwards. Hope that helps.
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« Reply #293 on: Tuesday 13 March 12 18:38 GMT (UK) »
just a word of warning about the Ancestry DNA tests please check their terms and conditions fully to see if they subscribe to all European legislation protecting your personal information of your DNA. The ftdna site does comply - you can find further details on their site
James Stott c1775-1850. James was born in Yorkshire but where? He was a stonemason and married Elizabeth Archer (nee Nicholson) in 1794 at Ripon. They lived thereafter in Masham. If anyone has any suggestions or leads as to his birthplace I would be interested to know. I have searched for it for years without success. Thank you.

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Re: DNA testing - genetic genealogy
« Reply #294 on: Tuesday 13 March 12 18:42 GMT (UK) »
Having   just   read  this thread,  as   considering a  DNA test   for  sons  male line,I  am  even  more  confused.

Does  anyone  know   what Ancestry (DNA test) is  bringing  out   soon.  And  is  it  really anything   new or  useful.

Thanks


It could be this

http://www.yourgeneticgenealogist.com/2011/11/more-details-on-ancestrycoms-new.html
James Stott c1775-1850. James was born in Yorkshire but where? He was a stonemason and married Elizabeth Archer (nee Nicholson) in 1794 at Ripon. They lived thereafter in Masham. If anyone has any suggestions or leads as to his birthplace I would be interested to know. I have searched for it for years without success. Thank you.

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Re: DNA testing - genetic genealogy
« Reply #295 on: Tuesday 13 March 12 19:05 GMT (UK) »
Hi all
Thanks  for  your  replies.

The  cheapest I have  found  for Male line  is £107.

Still dont know  whether  to go  for  the  full  works? Or await Ancestry?

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« Reply #296 on: Tuesday 13 March 12 19:21 GMT (UK) »
My guess is that some company will be doing the work for Ancestry, so they will be more expensive I guess.Go for one of the other reputable ones.
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