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Re: DNA testing - genetic genealogy
« Reply #243 on: Monday 28 March 11 16:20 BST (UK) »
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No, but this isn't really the same situation as I see it, I think this situation is more akin to (say) a European with an African wife. A closer comparison would seem to be a dog breeding with a fox.
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« Reply #244 on: Monday 28 March 11 16:42 BST (UK) »
re. "Roman" DNA - do u mean the DNA of the legions recruited from the Rhineland? Gaul? Elsewhere?

re. "Norman" DNA - do u mean the native "French" who settled in Britain, their few Danish overlords, or some of their European mercenaries?

You will find more info on this on the Newbie Questions forum & elsewhere on http://dna-forums.org/ but for brevities sake both areas are more murky than you would think.

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Re: DNA testing - genetic genealogy
« Reply #245 on: Thursday 07 April 11 19:36 BST (UK) »
FTDNA have just released their 110 marker Y-DNA test.

See:- http://www.familytreedna.com/faq/answers/default.aspx?faqid=9#330

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Re: DNA testing - genetic genealogy
« Reply #246 on: Thursday 07 April 11 19:46 BST (UK) »
I dont always trust percentages. 5% Norman contribution seems a bit low.
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Re: DNA testing - genetic genealogy
« Reply #247 on: Friday 08 April 11 19:39 BST (UK) »
Since Norman DNA would have originated in Scandinavia I would imagine it difficult to segregate from the Danish, Angle, Saxon etc. which might be a factor in its apparent scarcity, also weren't they an elite rather a population replacement? In this aspect seems about right to me.
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Re: DNA testing - genetic genealogy
« Reply #248 on: Friday 08 April 11 22:17 BST (UK) »
Hello Debbie

Just thought I would add RootsforReal.com a very good company located, I believe, in Germany.Lookin2
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Re: DNA testing - genetic genealogy
« Reply #249 on: Saturday 09 April 11 15:56 BST (UK) »
Debbie

Just received Family Finder Results for my sister.  She has two matches.  Both are 3rd-5th cousins and quite a few others (speculative). I have never heard of these surnames.  If I do not e-mail can these two cousins e-mail me and have you been approached that way with your Father's Finder Test?

This is a big step forward as all DNA tests so far have produced very little. Question: As my sister is a half sister, if I get the same test done would I be able to compare differences for her (unknown) father to mine?. Thank you, Lookin2
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Re: DNA testing - genetic genealogy
« Reply #250 on: Sunday 24 April 11 04:15 BST (UK) »
I have a problem. My father was born the day after my grandparents were married. My grandmother was working in service up to the date of the marriage.
My grandfather was of Scottish descent. My grandmother's employers were German Jews. Would the DNA ancestry test be able to prove my paternal line as Celtic or Jewish?
I am a little concerned that these tests may be a bit of an expensive gimmick. Which is the best provider to use? Can anyone advise me please.
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Re: DNA testing - genetic genealogy
« Reply #251 on: Sunday 24 April 11 05:38 BST (UK) »
Hi Bamc,

We tested with ftDNA, and I understand from various forums that this company has a good reputation;  different companies apparently do different types of testing, and the geneticist I am in touch with assures me that ftDNA do the better type of testing.  If you are doing y-DNA testing and you need to find out your ethnic origins, then you need to go the whole hog, i.e. minimum 67 markers (111 markers now available) and the deep clade test, which gives you your subclade (subgroup of the haplogroup you fall into).   In the case of the R1b haplogroup, this is particularly important as it is the most common haplogroup in Western Europe and has many subgroups.  Unfortunately you do not know which group you fall into until you test!

Testing to just 12 markers is of no use at all - we have over 150 exact matches at 12 markers from all over the world;  this is reduced to just one close match at 67 markers. 

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Carol