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Re: Death and Burial James FLOOD Husband of Catherine FLOOD
« Reply #45 on: Saturday 17 December 11 12:05 GMT (UK) »
Hi again Peter
If you wanted more information on Catherine who became Mother Mary Imelda at Lochinvar, I'm sure whoever is the current archivist there would be able to help.
Are you in Australia?  The phone number of the Congregational Office at Lochinvar is
(02) 4930 9650.

When I read your post initially I wondered why the surname was familiar to me.  Now I know - I went to school at Lochinvar so must have seen or been told about Mother Mary Imelda at some time  :)  :)  :)
But she was a bit before my time!    :)  :)   :)  :)

Dawn M

Yes I visited the Lochinvar site and read the Archive report.
She is buried in the nuns (sisters) area SW of the Church on the opposite side as the School.


JAMES AND CATHERINE (NEE MOONEY) FLOOD

Written by Patrick Murphy 2011
James Flood was a native of Allen (Isle of Allen or Rathernan), Co. Kildare, Ireland (spelling
on documents tendered in Australia is Allan based on accent of informants) and the son of
James, a labourer and May McCabe his wife. James’s calling was a farm labourer and was
30 years old on embarkation in June 1841. The person certifying the baptism was Rev G.
O’Reilly PP stated as June 1810 who was a Roman Catholic - both James and Catherine
were Roman Catholics. The persons certifying the character of James were Richard
Fitzgerald, Landholder and Peter Mooney, Landholder.
Catherine Flood was the daughter of John Snr and Biddy (Elizabeth) Mooney, also from
Allen, Co. Kildare, Ireland. John’s calling was a farm labourer. Her age on embarkation was
27 years old, sworn by G. H. Midheoff J. P. The same persons certified as to her character
with both being in good ”State of bodily health strength and probable usefulness”.
“Rathernan1 or the Isle of Allen was a parish in the union of Naas, barony of Connell, county of Kildare
and the province of Leinster, 5 ¾ miles (NE) from Kildare. It contained 977 inhabitants in 1844. This
parish comprises 5140 ½ statute acres. It is situated on the bog of Allen by which it and the parish of
Kilmacgue are entirely insulated forming what is called the Isle of Allen, its chief feature is the Hill of
Allen. On its northern border are the ruins of Ballyteigue Castle. At the northern extremity of the hill
about a quarter of a mile distant, is a slight eminence called the leap of Allen, composed of red sandstone
conglomerate, arranged in beds varying in thickness. The greenstone of the hill combined with greenstone
porphyry, appears all round the base on the sides and on the summit in protuberant masses without any
stratification. Rathernan is a rectory and vicerage in the diocese of Kildare. In the Roman Catholic
divisions the parish is part of the district of Allen and Milltown.”



James Flood married2 Catherine Mooney on 5 May 1833 at Allen, Co Kildare, Ireland. Both
are stated as being from the parish of Allen. The witnesses were Henry Dempsey and
Catherine Ivory. The church nor their parents are named in the records. There is no Mauriey
or Morrissey registered in the Parish of Allen.
The church in which James and Catherine were married is likely3 to have been at
Kilmeague, Nass and ‘The Church of St Maedhoc or Mogue.’ It is not certain to which saint
of that name the old church of this place is dedicated.

James and Catherine Flood arrived in Australia on the ship “Eliphinstone” on 8th October
18404 with their family of John, aged 4 in May 1840 and born on 12 April 1836, Thomas,
aged 2 in August 1840 and born on 2 September 1838 and Bridget, aged 6 in May 1840 and
born on 18 May 1834. William Capper bought out the “Eliphinstone”.

Having arrived in Sydney in October 1840, they immediately made their way to Bathurst and
Kings Plains where they had their first child, James, in Australia on 14th November 1841.
James was baptised on 1 January 1842 at Bathurst when they were living at Kings Plains. It
was three years later in 1844 when they had another child, William born on 12 February
1844 and baptised on 28 July 1844. Tragedy struck soon after with the death of James in
1844. Another son was born in 1846 and again named James after their dead son of the
previous 2 years.

It was another two years when James and Catherine had another child, Patrick on 8
February 1848 followed by Mary a further five years on, born on 7 March 1853.

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Re: Death and Burial James FLOOD Husband of Catherine FLOOD
« Reply #46 on: Saturday 17 December 11 12:15 GMT (UK) »
Hi again Peter
If you wanted more information on Catherine who became Mother Mary Imelda at Lochinvar, I'm sure whoever is the current archivist there would be able to help.
Are you in Australia?  The phone number of the Congregational Office at Lochinvar is
(02) 4930 9650.

When I read your post initially I wondered why the surname was familiar to me.  Now I know - I went to school at Lochinvar so must have seen or been told about Mother Mary Imelda at some time  :)  :)  :)
But she was a bit before my time!    :)  :)   :)  :)

Dawn M

Yes I visited the Lochinvar site and read the Archive report.
She is buried in the nuns (sisters) area SW of the Church on the opposite side as the School.


JAMES AND CATHERINE (NEE MOONEY) FLOOD

Written by Patrick Murphy 2011
James Flood was a native of Allen (Isle of Allen or Rathernan), Co. Kildare, Ireland (spelling
on documents tendered in Australia is Allan based on accent of informants) and the son of
James, a labourer and May McCabe his wife. James’s calling was a farm labourer and was
30 years old on embarkation in June 1841. The person certifying the baptism was Rev G.
O’Reilly PP stated as June 1810 who was a Roman Catholic - both James and Catherine
were Roman Catholics. The persons certifying the character of James were Richard
Fitzgerald, Landholder and Peter Mooney, Landholder.
Catherine Flood was the daughter of John Snr and Biddy (Elizabeth) Mooney, also from
Allen, Co. Kildare, Ireland. John’s calling was a farm labourer. Her age on embarkation was
27 years old, sworn by G. H. Midheoff J. P. The same persons certified as to her character
with both being in good ”State of bodily health strength and probable usefulness”.
“Rathernan1 or the Isle of Allen was a parish in the union of Naas, barony of Connell, county of Kildare
and the province of Leinster, 5 ¾ miles (NE) from Kildare. It contained 977 inhabitants in 1844. This
parish comprises 5140 ½ statute acres. It is situated on the bog of Allen by which it and the parish of
Kilmacgue are entirely insulated forming what is called the Isle of Allen, its chief feature is the Hill of
Allen. On its northern border are the ruins of Ballyteigue Castle. At the northern extremity of the hill
about a quarter of a mile distant, is a slight eminence called the leap of Allen, composed of red sandstone
conglomerate, arranged in beds varying in thickness. The greenstone of the hill combined with greenstone
porphyry, appears all round the base on the sides and on the summit in protuberant masses without any
stratification. Rathernan is a rectory and vicerage in the diocese of Kildare. In the Roman Catholic
divisions the parish is part of the district of Allen and Milltown.”



James Flood married2 Catherine Mooney on 5 May 1833 at Allen, Co Kildare, Ireland. Both
are stated as being from the parish of Allen. The witnesses were Henry Dempsey and
Catherine Ivory. The church nor their parents are named in the records. There is no Mauriey
or Morrissey registered in the Parish of Allen.
The church in which James and Catherine were married is likely3 to have been at
Kilmeague, Nass and ‘The Church of St Maedhoc or Mogue.’ It is not certain to which saint
of that name the old church of this place is dedicated.

James and Catherine Flood arrived in Australia on the ship “Eliphinstone” on 8th October
18404 with their family of John, aged 4 in May 1840 and born on 12 April 1836, Thomas,
aged 2 in August 1840 and born on 2 September 1838 and Bridget, aged 6 in May 1840 and
born on 18 May 1834. William Capper bought out the “Eliphinstone”.

Having arrived in Sydney in October 1840, they immediately made their way to Bathurst and
Kings Plains where they had their first child, James, in Australia on 14th November 1841.
James was baptised on 1 January 1842 at Bathurst when they were living at Kings Plains. It
was three years later in 1844 when they had another child, William born on 12 February
1844 and baptised on 28 July 1844. Tragedy struck soon after with the death of James in
1844. Another son was born in 1846 and again named James after their dead son of the
previous 2 years.

It was another two years when James and Catherine had another child, Patrick on 8
February 1848 followed by Mary a further five years on, born on 7 March 1853.

The following children were to James and Catherine:
Name Born Married Marriage Date Death Date
Bridget 18 May 1834 Royal Atkins 1 Feb 1855 7 May 1869
John 12 April 1836 Sophia Coyne 6 June 1865 9 October 1898
Thomas 2 Sept 1838 Julia Cullen 1861 (Carcoar) 30 June 1874
James 14 Nov 1841 1844
Christopher 1842
William 12 Feb 1844 17 Nov 1866
James 1846
Patrick 8 Feb 1848 Agnes Mary Burke 1878 (Carcoar) 10 June 1928
Mary 7 March 1853

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Re: Death and Burial James FLOOD Husband of Catherine FLOOD
« Reply #47 on: Sunday 18 December 11 01:09 GMT (UK) »
Hi Peter
Another coincidence - my Montgomery family came out on the same voyage as your Flood family!

Elphinstone, October 1840.

Mine were from Ballymena, Co.Antrim in Ireland - James and Ellen and their boys (a girl is mentioned in the bounty immigrants list but we think she died on the voyage), plus James' sister Jane and her husband Hugh Marshall and family.

 :)  :)   :)
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Re: Death and Burial James FLOOD Husband of Catherine FLOOD
« Reply #48 on: Friday 30 March 12 01:40 BST (UK) »
Just wondering if you have any information as to where James and Catherine Flood are buried and or dates of their death ? and what relation is Peter Gerard Flood to them? I am a great x 3 granddaughter researching family tree.


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Re: Death and Burial James FLOOD Husband of Catherine FLOOD
« Reply #49 on: Friday 02 November 12 23:22 GMT (UK) »
Catherine died 1891 at Junction Reef west of Lyndhurst, buried Lyndhurst  Mentioned in NSW BDM

JAMES death can be found

The history of JAMES and CATHERINE is posted above.

I have now tracked down descedents from several of James and Catherine's children 6 generations, in Sydney, Armidale Toowoomba, Goondiwindi, Stanthorpe, Coffs Harbour, Brisbane, Newcastle just a few'

Thanks Peter

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Re: Death and Burial James FLOOD Husband of Catherine FLOOD
« Reply #50 on: Friday 02 November 12 23:28 GMT (UK) »
original JAMES and Catherine arrived 1840 settled Carcoar, son John, his son Gwidyr William, his son JAMES, his son Peter Gerard Flood 

Look on web to see profile, Facebook or LINKEDIN

Still cannot determine year of death of James

Can you assist as I tried NSW BDM, Wills, Probate, intestate, Pub Licences, Greville PO names, 1891 Census, etc??????????????????????? ??? ???


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Re: Death and Burial James FLOOD Husband of Catherine FLOOD
« Reply #51 on: Saturday 03 November 12 04:31 GMT (UK) »
Peter, there is a James Frederick FLOOD death in Qld in 1927 "aged about 64 years"  [1927/C1743 - which indicates it was in country Qld.]
No parents named, and it's 10 years out for age if he was born 1846, but do you think this could possibly be him?

I note you said you have looked everywhere in NSW, but what about the other states?

Dawn M
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Re: Death and Burial James FLOOD Husband of Catherine FLOOD
« Reply #52 on: Wednesday 07 November 12 01:28 GMT (UK) »
Hi Peter,

Thanks for getting back to me,  I  am also having trouble on locating where and when James died, he is such a mystery man !!. Interstate maybe the answer, I will also look you up on facebook/linkedin too. If I find out any information I'll let you know.

Aussie M

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Re: Death and Burial James FLOOD Husband of Catherine FLOOD
« Reply #53 on: Wednesday 07 November 12 05:41 GMT (UK) »
This is no help in finding the death, just another bit of background - another (not very flattering) description of the Rising Sun in 1871

http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/60870895

I think you have this one - an ad for Races at the Rising Sun in 1862

http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/62719390

Judith
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