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[ScouseBoy]

Hi ,did you ever have any luck finding out any more.
I also had a great aunt from Ipswich Daisy Hammond that was in this home in 1911 ,I did find out it was a mother and baby home but no more.Would love to know more as Daisy was never spoken about ,her father went on to have more children and even called one Daisy

Was Daisy Hammond married when she was admitted to the Institution, do you know?

With the references to "fallen women" and "unmarried girls" and Daisy "never been seen or spoken of again", what do you think?

Don't you see any inference there at all? 

.  When one tries to imagine how things were 100 years or more ago it is not wise to make inferences, in my considered opinion.

Even 60 years ago, women and wives could be treated very badly.

[littlesis 76]

I have just checked the census again and birth index for 1911.The maiden names only appears from the 4Th quarter in 1911 and I believe the registration  district for Margate is Thanet ,they are several Hammond's born but can trace many of them to families apart from 3.
The baby was probably adopted quickly and renamed so not alot of hope there,also another question did the babies get registered by the mothers if they were too be adopted ?. I looked on the census for the home and there was a girl Mary Faultless but only 9 Faultless born that year and none in Kent which makes me think maybe they didn't register the children to the birth mothers ?

Your right Daisy may have died and that's why he named another child Daisy,the frustrating thing is I don't think I will ever find out.
I would love to be able to read any records from this home,I might tomorrow ring margate record office to see if they hold any records not holding my breath but worth a try

[littlesis 76]

I think maybe she did die,I have found a Daisy Hammond born abt 1895 died Jan-Feb-March 1912 age 17yrs ,Thanet Kent
I am going to order her death certificate to be sure it is her.Thank you for all your help will let you know the outcome.
Lisa

[Ruskie]

Yes, please do let us know what the certificate reveals Lisa.

 

[littlesis 76]

I have ordered the death certificate via pdf it will arrive on 18th Nov,
Can I say I am am so pleased I came here as I didn't know about Gro records including maiden name and have now been able to put so many young children in my tree now.
Also searching a Hammond born in 1911 with mother maiden name Hammond in Thanet Kent there are none ,I am guessing that these babies were not registered to birth mother's ?
Does anyone know any different please

Thanks Lisa

[Ruskie]

Sorry Lisa, I don't know about babies' birth registrations. They would have had several months (3 I think  ) to register the birth - unsure how the timings are, but maybe you could check 1912 too?

Is it possible that the baby was born before 1911? I think some of these girls stayed on working after having their babies, possibly even after the baby had been adopted.

Someone will have more knowledge than I do and should be able to help you further.

[ScouseBoy]

Sorry Lisa, I don't know about babies' birth registrations. They would have had several months (3 I think  ) to register the birth - unsure how the timings are, but maybe you could check 1912 too?

     I believe that it is within 42 days  that the birth has to be registered, but whether that time applied in 1911 and 1912   I don't know.   

[littlesis 76]

Hi I have just been back on and put the 2yr+/- on 1911 and still none.
I can only assume they didn't register the baby to the birth mother if adopted,be interesting to see what this death certificate Say's ....roll on the 18Th November

[littlesis 76]

Well I received the death certificate and it was all very sad.
I am now very sure that this was my Daisy as I check all deaths in Ipswich of Daisy Hammond between 1901 and 1911 and there are none.
The death certificate was 1912 , Daisy Hammond age 17yrs.She died from rheumatic fever and exhaustion  and the informant of death was the matron from the local workhouse in Margate.Poor Daisy I felt terrible when I read this
Her father had a child with his new lady (they never married and had 4 children) in 1913 and she was named Daisy .
I am 95% sure this is our Daisy but would love to be 100%. I think ut highly unlikely to beable to get any information from Helena Home but does any know what workhouse records are available ?. I know London workhouses are available on Ancestry but has anyone had any luck with any others ?