Rescue Homes

[KGarrad]

Even today in England  there are only about 15 Mother and Baby units.     What else were you thinking of?

www.childrenshomes.org.uk lists some 963 entries for Magdalen homes in England (298 in London postal districts alone).
And that doesn't include other mother-and-baby homes!

[ScouseBoy]

Hi ,did you ever have any luck finding out any more.
I also had a great aunt from Ipswich Daisy Hammond that was in this home in 1911 ,I did find out it was a mother and baby home but no more.Would love to know more as Daisy was never spoken about ,her father went on to have more children and even called one Daisy

Was Daisy Hammond married when she was admitted to the Institution, do you know?

[Ruskie]

Hi ,did you ever have any luck finding out any more.
I also had a great aunt from Ipswich Daisy Hammond that was in this home in 1911 ,I did find out it was a mother and baby home but no more.Would love to know more as Daisy was never spoken about ,her father went on to have more children and even called one Daisy

Was Daisy Hammond married when she was admitted to the Institution, do you know?

With the references to "fallen women" and "unmarried girls" and Daisy "never been seen or spoken of again", what do you think?

Don't you see any inference there at all? 

This is an old thread and the OP hasn't been on rootschat for a couple of years. It would be interesting to know if they have made any progress in their research.

Littlesis, have you looked for a marriage or death for Daisy? Or a birth around 1911 for a baby registered in the district where the home is located, with a surname Hammond and mmn Hammond? If her father named another daughter Daisy, this may imply that this Daisy died, so perhaps look for a death prior to the birth of the second Daisy and after the 1911 census.

[Rosinish]

I may be wrong here but the name Magdalen/Magdalene & the word "Missionary" make me wonder if they were Catholic rescue/help homes?

SB, in days gone by, young girls/women were employed as servants & such like and my belief is similar to KG's.

Often being a Servant/Maid or similar, young women obeyed their employers out of fear of losing their much needed income!

You will often read of illegitimacies to Servants etc. & that's the reason....young/vulnerable women taken for granted by their Boss (whether married or not)!!!

Annie

[littlesis 76]

Thank you for the replies.
Daisy was not married and was only 16 in 1911.I have checked any Hammond's born  and Daisy Hammond's that were married but there is no way of being sure unless I start ordering marriage certificate's.
I thought if Daisy was alive in 1921 I would have to wait for that census to be released,check any Daisy's born 1894 Ipswich.
She may have died but I was speaking to my Grandmother yesterday and her sister and they are so shocked there father had a sister who they knew nothing about, I would imagine as they know so much of the family that if she had died it would of been spoken of and they would have known about her,I may be wrong but I think beng 16 and expecting a baby she like many others were sent away and never to be spoken of.
Her father was a widow at this time with 6 children all younger than Daisy ,he married a lady (who the 2nd Daisy was born too ) but she had 4 children already and only 1 went to live with her and the Hammond's the others were placed in a children's home in Ipswich ..Lovely couple !

[Rosinish]

Can you follow the father's background as the name Daisy seems significant to him, possibly his own mother's name or his grandmother?

Very coincidental to have 2 kids with same name to 2 different women?

Annie

[Rosinish]

I believe Daisy may also be a pet name for Margaret?

Deleted last sentence although I believe the above to be true?

Annie

[KGarrad]

I may be wrong here but the name Magdalen/Magdalene & the word "Missionary" make me wonder if they were Catholic rescue/help homes?

The Children's Homes website is quite informative!

Re Magdalen Homes, it says:
Organizations operating Magdalen Homes included The Salvation Army, Church Army, Ladies Association for the Care of Friendless Girls, the Church Penitentiary Association, the Female Aid Society, the Roman Catholic Church, and many independent local charities.

[Ruskie]

On the contrary littlesis, if Daisy brought shame to the family, and if she consequently died at a young age, in that era it is highly likely that she would never have been spoken about.

I don't think it is at all surprising that your grandmother and her sister did not know of this aunt of theirs.