Kirk Smeaton Parish Reg. Rhodes. Completed

[rapsy]

Does anyone have access to church records for Kirk Smeaton c 1808?

   I'm trying to find a birth or baptism for my great great grandfather John Rhodes.

   I know that his father was Edward as he married twice and I have the marriage certificate, 1845, at Brayton near Selby, to Hannah Claburn.

   John is at Burn in 1841 age 30 with his first wife Maria (Clayton).  The 1851 census shows him at Burn with his second wife Hannah.  He's 43 and an agricultural labourer born at Church Smeaton.

   He died at Burn, 17-3-1864.

       Regards, Rapsy.

[dobfarm]

Hi

You can buy a booklet of the Kirk Smeaton  register Baptisms for £1.60 from this link

http://www.parishchest.com/kirk_smeaton_st_peter_register_of_baptisms_1754_-_1837__P5066



Hugh Wallis website show no Rhodes Surnames in Kirk Smeaton 1724 to 1812

Rhodes
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Batch Number: C106562

No entries for Rhodes in Batch number C106562

There is one entry for a John Rhodes 1808 father Edward at Leeds chapel -St Peter

But the one I think it could be is John Rhodes  27 Oct 1805 in Pontrefract father Edward mother Elizabeth. ( Could be Kirk Smeaton as abode)

But could be either of these entries though.

If John left a Will in 1864 or his father Edward  (death year unknown) left a Will this maybe more revealing

[rapsy]

Many thanks for this info dobfarm.
Sorry for the delay in answering, but the computer has been switched off for a couple of days.  I don't think that John would have left a will being an ag lab, but I'll give the booklet a go.
 Thanks again, Rapsy.

[rapsy]

Hello dobfarm,
  The booklet arrived yesterday from The Pontefract & District Family History Society.  It has just one baptism for Rhodes.
  Martha, 10th Dec 1808, father Edward, mother Elizabeth, living at Little Smeaton.  I'm willing to believe that John was from Church Smeaton and that Martha was his sister.
  The year 1808 links nicely with John's estimated birth year and your suggestion of a baptism at Pontefract in 1805, father Edward, mother Elizabeth.
  Many thanks, Rapsy.

[dobfarm]

Hi Rapsy

Seeing a bapt 1808 Martha with parents Edward and Elizabeth at Kirk smeaton parish reg and Rhodes not common name, the Pontefract bapt 1805 of John seems to be your John. (Myself I would accept it)
Also proves John was not baptized at Kirk seaton parish  thus strengthens the Pontefract bapt 1805

Census and parish reg burial age or MI age at death/burial are open to error of a few couple of years given by most illiterate relo's or hand down age info by relo's of believed age at death.

Martha to your Rescue- maybe the most eventfull thing she ever did! ever!! even after her death.

Nice hear of a result

regards

Dobby

[hol]

hello
there is also an entry at st martins womersley for a mary rhodes.  father edward  little smeaton /mother elizabeth.
8/11/1807.
marthas baptism  took place there as well 29/12/1808 ,maybe the pontefract entry was date of birth.
regards lee

[rapsy]

Hello Dobfarm and Lee,
  Apologies once more for the delay in replying but again the computer has been out of action for about a week .
   I know that Womersley is only about a mile or so from Little Smeaton but why would Martha be baptised again at Womersley? Surely, once you're baptised you're baptised.
   Regards, Rapsy.

[hol]

hello
maybe the booklet for pontefract covers the whole area rather than specific church entries. i think we are looking at the same family .
regards lee

[rapsy]

Hello Lee,
   The booklet is just for St Peter's baptisms Kirk Smeaton 1754 to 1902 but I notice in some of the entries under "Abode" it mentions Little Smeaton Parish of Womersley so it could be that the incumbent at Womersley copied the entry from St Peter's into his register as it was part of his parish, albeit 19 days later.
   Yes, Mary seems to fit the bill too, so now I'll have to look for the family in the 1841 census, with Mary about 34 and Martha about 33, although I realise that dates of birth and dates of baptisms can be years apart and the girls could well be married then with different surnames.  I might need some more help.
   Regards, Rapsy.