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Re: John & William Mac/McPherson Invercargill
« Reply #27 on: Thursday 28 April 11 07:06 BST (UK) »
Well, well, well!!!!!

I think I've traced John - to San Diego, California!!!!!

Trawling the Southland Times on paperspast I found the following:

Southland Times 28 Jan 1899 page 3

"Bluff Harbour Board Friday 27 Jan Monthly Meeting
Mr John Macpherson, formerly resident of Southland for many years
and then a member of the Board, wrote from San Diego, California, re
the new coating for for wharf piles....."

The story becomes curiouser & curiouser!!  Where to next??

Cheers
Roderick
Bolton, Dillon, Eagle, Flood, L'Estrange, Landers & Walpole in Ireland.  Mac/McPherson in Renfrew & Argyll.  Summers in Somerset

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Re: John & William Mac/McPherson Invercargill
« Reply #28 on: Friday 29 April 11 00:28 BST (UK) »
Hi Roderick

I've only concentrated on finding info for John MacPHERSON to date.     When I have a little more time, will see what can be found for William.   ;)

Don't think you gave us a birth year for John's son Duncan ?? ... but having just checked the 1881 UK census, I see he was born 1873, so appears to be the man marrying in 1896.   :)   (Had had some earlier doubts, as there seems to have been a number of John MacPHERSON's with business connections to Southland and Otago.)

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Re: John & William Mac/McPherson Invercargill
« Reply #29 on: Friday 29 April 11 00:33 BST (UK) »

Re the publication of a death notice for Isabella in a Melbourne paper - no known McPherson family members in Victoria in 1880 but certainly family/business contacts. I also checked Victorian bdm's for a possible marriage of John & Ann and/or birth of Isabella but no record so still a mystery! If John and family did live in Melbourne it must have been a short stay.

Hi again Roderick

NZ BIRTHS -  indexed as "McPHERSON"

1865 - McPHERSON  - Isabella Watson

1869 - McPHERSON - Winifred Annie



~  Lu

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Re: John & William Mac/McPherson Invercargill
« Reply #30 on: Friday 29 April 11 03:51 BST (UK) »
Hi Lu

I think Isabella's birth in NZ confirms we have been looking at the same
John, not withstanding his sojourn in England during the 1870's.

The Mc/Mac variation does complicate online searching!!  I don't always
remember to factor that in.

Cheers
Roderick
Bolton, Dillon, Eagle, Flood, L'Estrange, Landers & Walpole in Ireland.  Mac/McPherson in Renfrew & Argyll.  Summers in Somerset


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Re: John & William Mac/McPherson Invercargill
« Reply #31 on: Friday 22 July 22 23:22 BST (UK) »
Hi Roderick,  this chain is old so you may not see this.  I'm a relative of of Anne Ione Macpherson and have some interesting family info i'd be happy to share.  How has your search progressed on William Macpherson over the years?   -Rob

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Re: John & William Mac/McPherson Invercargill
« Reply #32 on: Friday 22 November 24 20:46 GMT (UK) »
In case others come across this thread.   Here is my understanding of what happened to some of the MacPhersons from Tasmania, mainly John (b.1839).    They certainly were Scottish travellers!   

Duncan MacPherson senior (b.1810) returned to the UK from Tasmania in 1863 (he was 53) after running a successful Mercantile business.  He returned the the UK with 2nd wife and children (William age 14, Isabella Ann 19, John 24 ).  He left his oldest son Duncan in Tasmania to run the  business.

Duncan seniors, son, John (b.1839) married Anne (Annie) Agatha Wilson (b 25 May 1841 in Edinburgh) on 12 Jan 1864.  She was the sister of the successful Scottish industrialist David Wilson from Dundee who ran the Bullionfield paper mill and built the still standing Greystane manor which is now a hotel. (Interestingly David Wilson spent some of his youth in the Victorian gold fields where he was able to make a start for himself before returning to Scotland).  John and his new wife Annie returned to NZ in 1864, to Invercargill and setup a mercantile business.  His younger brother William may have returned with them to NZ.   They had 3 children in NZ (Isabel b.1865, Margaret 1867, Winifred 1869).  After John’s sister Isabelle died in the UK in 1870, John and family returned to the UK in 1872.  William stayed in NZ to manage the mercantile business.
John and family stayed in the UK for 13 years, 4th child Duncan was born in Northumberland in 1873.  They had moved to St Briavels Gloucestershire, 1878/79.   John bought the Cone Paper mill in 1879 which he worked until 1884 when he sold it.  Sadly, Johns daughter Isabel had died Dec 22 1879 in Aylesmore Gloucestershire, his father Duncan died in 1882 also in Gloucestershire.
John, his wife and three remaining children then moved back to NZ in 1884 and resumed business in Invercargill with his brother William who was still there.   John was involved in the rescue of the survivors from the shipwreck Grafton in 1884, we still have the silver plate presented to John from the U.S government thanking him for his help.  John and family stayed in NZ until in 1891 when John, Annie and daughters all moved to San Diego, California.   Only the son Duncan remained in NZ.  John and Annie both lived the rest of their lives in San Diego, the two daughters married Americans.     Duncan (b.1873) lived the rest of his life in NZ, he married a ms.Gardner and lived on Rye St, Otautau.  They had three children Mary Inaha (known as Weira 1898-1975),  Anne Ione (my grandmother 1901-1988),  Elizabeth Struan (1906-1995)  John (1916 in Otautau-1941 died over Rangoon Burma in WW2).   Duncan's descendants are still mainly in NZ and AU.