CRUMPLIN of Portsea and Portsmouth

[Tom Piper]

Then there is this interesting CRUMPLIN from Dublin I think, who passes through Hampshire:


Quarter Master William CRUMPLIN

Freeman's Journal and Daily Commercial Advertiser (Dublin, Ireland), Wednesday, December 11, 1878; Issue N/A.

Sergeant Major W. Crumplin, Calvary Depot; to Brigade Quarter-master sergeant.

Freeman's Journal and Daily Commercial Advertiser (Dublin, Ireland), Friday, January 24, 1879; Issue N/A.

ARMY SERVICE CORPS: Sub-Assistant Commissiary,  Late Sergeant Major in the 4th (Queens Own Hussars), has been posted for duty with No. 1 Company at Woolwich.

There are several articles about a Sub-assistant Commissary in the Huzzars called William CRUMPLIN, who when at Woolwich, his wife, had a baby girl born December 31st 1879

THE RETURN OF TROOPS .
The Standard (London, England), Monday, October 23, 1882; pg. 5; Issue 18179. 19th Century British Library Newspapers: Part II.

In Inman steam-ship City of Paris (steam transport) arrived in Plymouth from Alexandria on Saturday with the portion of the Royal Marine Force who have been engaged in the operations in Egypt, the men belonging to Plymouth, Portsmouth and Chatham Divisions. Of the Commissariat Transport Corps was a Quartermaster CRUMPLIN.

Freeman's Journal and Daily Commercial Advertiser (Dublin, Ireland), Thursday, November 2, 1882; Issue N/A.

Quartermaster W. CRUMPLIN of the Commisseriat and Transport staff, has arrived at Woolwich for duty on return from Egypt.


Aberdeen Weekly Journal (Aberdeen, Scotland), Wednesday, May 27, 1885; Issue 9452.

Category: News

RETURN OF SICK OFFICERS:

Cairo: Tuesday, The following officers are here sick from the Nile: Quartermaster W. CRUMPLIN, Commisseriat & Transport Staff.

Northern Echo (Darlington, England), Thursday, June 4, 1885; Issue 4767.

Evacuating the SOUDAN:  The following invalided officers embarked on the Jumna on May 30th, from the Nile: Quartermaster W. CRUMPLIN, Commisseriat & Transport Staff.

NAVAL NOTES & NFWS .
Hampshire Telegraph and Sussex Chronicle etc (Portsmouth, England), Saturday, June 20, 1885; Issue 5427.

On Saturday, June 20th, the Jumna, Indian troopship Capt. St George, arrived in Portsmouth harbour, and amongst the officers was Quarter-master CRUMPLIN.

The Morning Post (London, England), Wednesday, April 10, 1895; pg. 3; Issue 38325. 19th Century British Library Newspapers: Part II.

ARMY Service Corps:  Qmstr. And Hon Capt. W. CRUMPLIN is placed on retired pay.

The Belfast News-Letter (Belfast, Ireland), Friday, April 12, 1895; Issue 24882.

Captain and Quartermaster CRUMPLIN, commanding B. Beaumont Company, ASC at Dublin, has been placed on the retired list on attaining the age of 55. Captain CRUMPLIN has a total record of over thirty six years of service, of which period twenty years was spent in the ranks. He obtained his commission as sub-assistant commissary in 1878 and became quartermaster two years later. Captain CRUMPLIN saw active service in the Egyptian War of 1882 and the Nile Expedition of 1885.

This Captain W Crumplin retired to live in Bates Street, Upper Rathmines, Ireland-his daughter, Fanny married Frederick William Dunlop at Trinity church Rathmines on August 2nd 1898.

Tom

[Edna2]

Really fascinating information, but not mine;  my Crumplins are Hartley Wintney, Winchfield, possibly also Crondall and Elvetham.  My grandfather William George (1864-1916) was in the army, possibly Hants/Sussex Foot, ?1880-?1893, and spent some time in India, but I can find no information about this period.
Edna

[antamls]

Thanks Tom Piper

A lot of info to work through but I can see already some of the "known" CRUMPLINs and some new ones - Worthy?  I think that is a nickname as I cannot find his birth yet.
Are the newspaper refs available online to search?

Tony

[colin mohr]

Tom Piper posted a reply which included a reference to a certain R T Crumplin who was severely wounded in the South African War.
He was my great grandfather. Where does the reference come from please and are there perhaps further details?
Does anyone know how I can access information listed as held by Emily Lady Tennyson?
I found a reference to a bound copy of a speech given at Freshwater by Tennyson titled " Address to the people of Freshwater going to the Tennyson Colony in South Africa"on Google Books.
The same R T Crumplin  together with his family and 24 other families, mainly from Hants, including his brother and his family, left England for South Africa aboard the ship The Arab in 1888 under the stewardship of Arnold White.
Any information leading up to this emigration would be most welcome.
I have a list of all the members of the group who arrived in South Africa but no details as to where they came from or what they did.
Incidentally R T Crumplin had been to America some time before and had got married there in Chicago to a Fanny Cobb ( also from Hants)
Their first child Georgina, my Grandmothers eldest sister having been born there in a town called Menominee, prior to them returning to Dogmersfield, where the family lived.
Colin Mohr  (South Africa)
 

[Tom Piper]

Colin,
Daily News (London, England), Wednesday, August 29, 1900; Issue 16983. (19th Century British Newspapers available from any local library with a library ticket)

The article is entitled:

 BRITISH CASUALTIES: THE FIGHTING NEAR BELFAST: RIDLEY'S LOSSES NEAR WINBURG: DEATHS FROM SICKNESS ETC

Then there are a list of casualties starting with August 20 and HAMMAN'S KRALL, followed by the below named article:

Colonel Ridley's Force, August 25

Queenstown Rifle Volunteers:-Private H. Brown (killed), Sergt H Birkenshaw (dangerously wounded, since dead), Lieut. C. L. Smith, (severely wounded, gunshot wound, right leg), Quarter-master Sergt. E. H. Bradfield, Corporal E. W. Wakeford, Privates A. Raison, C. Subbs and  R. T. Crumplin (severely wounded). Private F. Foster (killed), Private J. Dodd (dangerously wounded) , Sergt-Major R. Cooper, Sergt. E. Arnott, Privates F.W. Eva, H.V.B. Helm. H. Neukivol, and G. Barnes (severely wounded).

More details may well be found in Roots Chat Military records.

Tom

[Tom Piper]

Colin,

There is a lot of information in the source, 19th Century British Newspapers about Arnold White and the British & Colonial Emigration Bureau,  and the Tennyson Colony.

Try this one:


A NEW COLONY .
The Sheffield & Rotherham Independent (Sheffield, England), Friday, June 22, 1888; pg. 5; Issue 10549. 19th Century British Library Newspapers: Part II.
Mr. Arnold White sails for South Africa this week in company with a contingent of agricultural labourers from Hampshire, who are bound for the colony of Wolseley, which was established two years ago  mainly by the beneficence of Lady Ossington. The enterprise is not, however, a charity, as the Colonists undertake to repay the outlay within a reasonable time. Mr. White's scheme is based on the idea that the pressure of rural labour on the towns owing to the depression of agriculture, may be relieved by drafting labourers to South Africa straight from the counties in turn. ....
In compliment to the Poet Laureate, who takes a great interest in the colony, the Wolseley community is called the Tennyson Colony, and the lady who accompanies the contingent as as trained hospital nurse takes the name Sister Enid.

I see that from one  of these articles that the new settlement was in the Queenstown district of Cape Colony, so hence the connection with the other article involving RT Crumplin.

Putting the name Arnold White into the search system comes back with over 300 entries in a three year period, but whether it's the same Arnold White would take me quite a bit of work, so suggest you have a go yourself. if you are abroad and don't belong to a local library here I will send you a PM.

Tom

[colin mohr]

Dear Tom. thank you so much for your assistance. Excuse my stupidity, but what is a PM and how would this assist me?

[Tom Piper]

Colin,

See Rootschat rules etc: I have sent you a PM that explains it.

Tom

[Spithead]

I have just come across this website and the information about the name Crumplin.
The "Miss Ivy" mentioned is my wife's grandmother and she has plenty of information and photos of her and her siblings.
Also I have researched her Great Uncle Charles Crumplin who was heroic but did not survive the Titanic disaster and have information on him.
If anyone wishes further information, please post