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CRUMPLIN of Portsea and Portsmouth
« on: Sunday 24 April 11 11:37 BST (UK) »
Hello - first time poster - hope this is in the correct place.

I have been researching my grandmothers family name - CRUMPLIN.  The family are from Hartley Wintney and surrounding villages in Hampshire and so far I have linked about half the CRUMPLINs who appear in the FreeBMD registrations.  I have noticed another group of about 50 CRUMPLINS registered in the Portsea/Portsmouth area between 1837 and 1901.  There is a good chance that the Portsea CRUMPLINs are linked to the Hartley Wintney CRUMPLINs as it is a fairly uncommon name.  The link is going to be before 1837.
Anybody interested in the same name or point me towards the missing link?
Thanks in anticipation

tonyamls
Marchant/Merchant of Devon, Disborough of London, Crumplin and Hooker of Hampshire

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« Reply #1 on: Sunday 24 April 11 12:08 BST (UK) »
Not sure how you plan to link them without tracing specific persons

Between 1752 and 1812 there are baptisms for 41 CRUMPLIN listed  in Hampshire and between 1813 and 1841 there are 45 , in addition there are variations
CRUMPLIN / CRAMPLIN / CROMPELIN /COMPLING / CRUMBLEN

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Re: CRUMPLIN of Portsea and Portsmouth
« Reply #2 on: Monday 25 April 11 16:50 BST (UK) »
Hello antamls/Tonyamls - my first post with this site as well.

A very interesting project. However, did you know a Crumplin was one of the many crew lost on Titanic. My area of research does focus on the Titanic Relief Fund Southampton Committee.

At the moment I am trying to work this particular Crumplin as all signs are showing he was in charge/landlord of a pub in Portsmouth. Which one remains unknown as I have to call at Portsmouth records once again, when time the prevails.

Hope this one helps your cause?

Andrew Williams

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Re: CRUMPLIN of Portsea and Portsmouth
« Reply #3 on: Monday 25 April 11 22:45 BST (UK) »
Kimbrey

Thanks for the reply - You have prompted me to look at my HGS discs again.  I found about 140 CRUMPLINs (and various spellings) 1752 - 1841 and have accounted for about 115 of them.  The outstanding ones that  I am intested in are:

William and Ann CRUMPLIN of Southwick, Hampshire who had children John (1816), Mary (1819), Elizabeth (1822) and Harriot (1824)
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Thomas and Elizabeth CRUMPLIN of Portsea St Mary who had children William (1813), Thomas (1815) and John Charles (1821)
and
Henry CRUMPLIN and Kezia nee Merrett of Portsea St Mary who had children Henry (1813), Mary (1814) and Elizabeth (1817)

These are the first CRUMPLINs in Portsea area so I am thinking perhaps three brothers who moved to the area, married and had families.  Now working on that theory.

Tony Marchant
Marchant/Merchant of Devon, Disborough of London, Crumplin and Hooker of Hampshire


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Re: CRUMPLIN of Portsea and Portsmouth
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 26 April 11 15:52 BST (UK) »
Hello Andrew

Thanks for the reply - Yes I had seen a Charles George CRUMPLIN b.1877 had died on the Titanic on several websites.  I think his parents were John Henry CRUMPLIN and Elizabeth CHANDLER.  John Henry's mother was Ann but I am not sure if the grandfather was John or Jonas and am stuck on this at the moment.
If I find the public house I will let you know.  Charles is described as a cabin steward on some sites and on one a victualler steward so that may link to previous experience in the pub trade.

Regards

Tony Marchant
Marchant/Merchant of Devon, Disborough of London, Crumplin and Hooker of Hampshire

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Re: CRUMPLIN of Portsea and Portsmouth
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 26 April 11 16:14 BST (UK) »
Andrew

Further to my last - 1901 Census shows Charles CRUMPLIN aged 24 years as the publican of the Eastney Arms Public House, (42) Cromwell Road, Portsmouth, Hampshire.  Living at the premises are wife Ada aged 24 years and daughter Frances aged 1 year.  Also at the premises are servants Cassie Taylor aged 15 years and George (groom aged 43 years) and Amelia (cook aged 49 years) HERMANETT. 
Hope that saves you a trip.

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Tony Marchant
Marchant/Merchant of Devon, Disborough of London, Crumplin and Hooker of Hampshire

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Re: CRUMPLIN of Portsea and Portsmouth
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 18 August 11 12:05 BST (UK) »
Hello - first time poster - hope this is in the correct place.

I have been researching my grandmothers family name - CRUMPLIN.  The family are from Hartley Wintney and surrounding villages in Hampshire and so far I have linked about half the CRUMPLINs who appear in the FreeBMD registrations.  I have noticed another group of about 50 CRUMPLINS registered in the Portsea/Portsmouth area between 1837 and 1901.  There is a good chance that the Portsea CRUMPLINs are linked to the Hartley Wintney CRUMPLINs as it is a fairly uncommon name.  The link is going to be before 1837.
Anybody interested in the same name or point me towards the missing link?
Thanks in anticipation
tonyamls

I am researching Hartley Wintney Crumplins, my grandparents.  You might try Thomas, 1796, married Ann Lovelock 1819
He married twice (Mary Ann Sutton) and had several sons, one, William, my great grandfather.
I lived in Portsmouth but never encountered  any Crumplins;  any possible link must have been truly lost by then.
Edna

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Re: CRUMPLIN of Portsea and Portsmouth
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 18 August 11 21:13 BST (UK) »
There are some CRUMPLIN newspaper articles from North Hampshire:

Worthy CRUMPLIN sounds a real character!!


ODIHAM, WARNBOROUGH and North Hampshire CRUMPLIN


The Hampshire Advertiser (Southampton, England), Saturday, July 18, 1868; pg. 3; Issue 2342. 19th Century British Library Newspapers: Part II.

George Street v Francis CRUMPLIN. Mr. King appeared for the defendant. The plaintiff (Street), is a bricklayer, and the defendant (CRUMPLIN) a carpenter, both living at North Warnborough. The claim was for materials supplied by Street to CRUMPLIN, which the court found in favour of the defendant.

The Hampshire Advertiser (Southampton, England), Saturday, July 06, 1878; pg. 2; Issue 3345. 19th Century British Library Newspapers: Part II.

Charles CRUMPLIN & William CULLEN & Henry Everley, railway porters at Aldershot, pleaded guilty to stealing beer and coals at Aldershot6 on June 23rd, they were sentenced to Everley to nine and the other two eight months imprisonment each.

The Hampshire Advertiser (Southampton, England), Saturday, May 01, 1886; pg. 8; Issue 4161. 19th Century British Library Newspapers: Part II.

Worthy CRUMPLIN of Mattingley, was summoned by police for setting fire to furze etc on 22nd April on Hugeley Heath. Later in May he pleaded guilty to setting fire to the furze on Viscount Eversley’s estate and he was bound over to keep the peace.


The Hampshire Advertiser (Southampton, England), Wednesday, October 01, 1890; pg. 4; Issue 4623. 19th Century British Library Newspapers: Part II

Odiham: Inquests: The second was a Louisa CRUMPLIN, of the Park Lodge, Odiham, and from evidence it appears the deceased retired to rest about 10 o’ clock as usual, her husband remaining down stairs. He heard a knocking, and on going up found his wife standing by the bed, and bleeding from the leg, a vein having burst. She died  in about ten minutes, the husband having no power to stop the bleeding. Verdict death through accidentally bursting a vein.

The Hampshire Advertiser (Southampton, England), Saturday, August 29, 1891; pg. 7; Issue 4718. 19th Century British Library Newspapers: Part II.
ODIHAM
Worthy CRUMPLIN, of Hartley ROW, was ordered to pay 7s and 6d, for being drunk and incapable. The case was brought by Police-sergeant White.


The Hampshire Advertiser (Southampton, England), Saturday, February 04, 1899; pg. 7; Issue 5494. 19th Century British Library Newspapers: Part II.

Odiham: William CRUMPLIN of North Warnborough was fined 5shillings for shooting stones from a catapult on the 22nd January.


There is a private R. T. Crumplin severely injured in the Boer War


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Re: CRUMPLIN of Portsea and Portsmouth
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 18 August 11 21:15 BST (UK) »
These are some Portsmouth Newspaper articles including a Parisian Skirt Dancer called Miss Ivy CRumplin:

Portsea CRUMPLIN

Births, Deaths, Marriages and Obituaries .
Hampshire Telegraph and Sussex Chronicle etc (Portsmouth, England), Saturday, April 17, 1875; Issue 4452.

BIRTHS:

CRUMPLIN: On the 9th Inst., at 23, Gold-street, Southsea, the wife of J H. Crumplin, R.N. of a son.

Births, Deaths, Marriages and Obituaries .
The Hampshire Advertiser (Southampton, England), Wednesday, March 07, 1877; pg. 2; Issue 3206. 19th Century British Library Newspapers: Part II.

BIRTHS: CRUMPLIN: On the 12th inst., at Gold-street, Southsea, the wife of Mr. J. J. CRUMPLIN, R. N. of a son.

Births, Deaths, Marriages and Obituaries .
Hampshire Telegraph and Sussex Chronicle etc (Portsmouth, England), Saturday, February 4, 1882; Issue 5166.

DEATHS: CRUMPLIN: On the 2nd instant, at No. 1, King Street, Southsea, Louisa Lydia Emily (Queenie), the beloved child of John & Lizzie Crumplin aged nine months and seven days.


Hampshire Telegraph and Sussex Chronicle etc (Portsmouth, England), Saturday, March 11, 1882; Issue 5176.


A man by the name of John Webb, was accused of stealing a case of whisky, the property of the Crown, whilst serving as a private in the Royal Marines, Portsmouth Division on board HMS Crocodile. In the court martial, a John Henry Crumplin, gave evidence as barman on board the ship, he could prove that the case came from the ship’s store.
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Hampshire Telegraph and Sussex Chronicle etc (Portsmouth, England), Saturday, May 31, 1884; Issue 5372.

William Henry CRUMPLIN, 13 years, was charged with unlawfully wounding Stephen Claxton aged 13 years on Sussex-street, Southsea.
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Hampshire Telegraph and Sussex Chronicle etc (Portsmouth, England), Saturday, June 20, 1885; Issue 5427.

A Mrs Crumplin, living in Sussex-street, Southsea, had a window broken when a gas explosion in the neighbouring street occurred.

Hampshire Telegraph and Sussex Chronicle etc (Portsmouth, England), Saturday, January 12, 1889; Issue 5613.

St. PETER’s THE BAND of HOPE:

On Tuesday an entertainment was given in the Sunday school-room by the boys of St Jude’s and amongst them was a C. CRUMPLIN.

Hampshire Telegraph and Sussex Chronicle etc (Portsmouth, England), Saturday, December 27, 1890; Issue 5705.

SYDNEY HOUSE SCHHOOL, SOUTHSEA

Amongst the prize winners were  a C. CRUMPLIN & W. CRUMPLIN. Master C. CRUMPLIN sang a duet. Master W. CRUMPLIN took the part of a black & white minstrel.

THE POLICE COURTS .
Hampshire Telegraph and Sussex Chronicle etc (Portsmouth, England), Saturday, September 12, 1891; Issue 5740.

DOG IN THE PARK John CRUMPLIN, of 2, King-street, Southsea, was fined 5shiilings for allowing his dog to follow him into the Victoria Park.

The Hampshire Advertiser (Southampton, England), Wednesday, December 09, 1891; pg. 2; Issue 4747. 19th Century British Library Newspapers: Part II.

DEATHS: On the 28th ult., at Landport Hospital, Mr. Wm. CRUMPLIN, aged 43.


LICENSES TRANSFERRED .
Hampshire Telegraph and Sussex Chronicle etc (Portsmouth, England), Saturday, December 8, 1894; Issue 5909.

The licence of the Richard Arms, Lake-road, was transferred from Arthur Reardon to John Henry CRUMPLIN.

Hampshire Telegraph and Naval Chronicle (Portsmouth, England), Saturday, October 6, 1900; Issue 6210

LOCAL INVENTORS: Application for patents:  J. H. CRUMPLIN, Portsmouth, “Fire Escape” later reported as John Henry Crumplin’s mechanical fire escape”


Category: News
PORTSMOUTH BREWSTER SESSIONS .
Hampshire Telegraph and Sussex Chronicle etc (Portsmouth, England), Saturday, September 26, 1896; Issue 6002.

Albert James CRUMPLIN, applied for a public house license for the “Falcon” beerhouse, King’s Road, Southsea. The application was granted.

Hampshire Telegraph and Sussex Chronicle etc (Portsmouth, England), Saturday, February 18, 1899; Issue 6126.


EXECUTIVE PETTY OFFICERS’ BENEFIT SOCIETY

A successful smoking concert was held under the auspices of this Society at the “Richmond Hotel”, Lake-road, Landport. Songs were contributed by Miss Ivy CRUMPLIN, was encored time and time again!

Miss Ivy features in many newspaper articles, singing and performing on the stage of both local and London Music halls, her main title was Parisian Skirt dancer, soubrette and Mandolinist, permanent address, Richmond Hotel, Portsmouth.

DISTRICT NEWS .
Hampshire Telegraph and Naval Chronicle (Portsmouth, England), Saturday, December 23, 1899; Issue 6170.

HAYLING ISLAND: A Miss Ivy CRUMPLIN gave displays of fancy dancing at the Victoria Hall, Hayling Island for a Patriotic Concert, in aid of the War Relief Fund.



Births, Deaths, Marriages and Obituaries .
Hampshire Telegraph and Naval Chronicle (Portsmouth, England), Saturday, October 28, 1899; Issue 6162.

Category: Birth, death, marriage notices

BIRTHS:
CRUMPLIN: On the 20th inst., at The Arcade, Landport, the wife of Mr. Charles G. C. CRUMPLIN, of a daughter.


Tom