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Re: census lookup request please 1871 lanarkshire, scotland
« Reply #54 on: Wednesday 05 November 14 13:39 GMT (UK) »
Also looked at deaths to see if I could find amy trace of Jane Brown's mother the woman called Devine or Ferguson.

Found a death in Holytown 1869  for a 70 year old woman   FERGUSON   MARY       LAMBIE LITTLE   F   70

entry says she was a widow of a William Ferguson and was also married to a William Little

This must be a connection too?
 

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Re: census lookup request please 1871 lanarkshire, scotland
« Reply #55 on: Wednesday 05 November 14 14:16 GMT (UK) »
That death you have found in 1869 looks to fit so well for Jane's mum! Remember on the 1861 you have that a Mary Little, aged 55, showed as a visitor from Co Tyrone where Jane also shows in 1861 as having been born.

What occupation was given for first husband William Ferguson if any? Who reported her death and at what address did she die?

See...more questions  ::)

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Re: census lookup request please 1871 lanarkshire, scotland
« Reply #56 on: Wednesday 05 November 14 14:32 GMT (UK) »
Found this old post here on Mary Lambie. You might want to send them a message and find out how they connect to Mary perhaps?

I would be very grateful if you could check if there is a burial record for Mary Lambie/Ferguson/Little who died 7 January 1869.

Many thanks.

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Re: census lookup request please 1871 lanarkshire, scotland
« Reply #57 on: Wednesday 05 November 14 14:36 GMT (UK) »
Hi

She is described as pauper

Informant - Benjamin Ferguson son
Death at Legbrannock

William Ferguson was a labourer at colliery

I also looked at some other Brown births were Viney is listed as mother. Viney is written but the informant John Brown couldnt read or write!


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Re: census lookup request please 1871 lanarkshire, scotland
« Reply #58 on: Wednesday 05 November 14 14:46 GMT (UK) »
That is good that you have found somebody knew and potentially a sibling to Jane. The Vinney angle, whilst a pain as you want everything ticked off properly, is no longer a block for this being Jane's family I think. You also have the issue of the first child born to Jane  not many months after her marriage in 1856 as DEVINE, have her as FORGIE....before moving on to VINEY. All a bit of a mess this issue of her use of surnames.

Even her mother's name is at issue. The 1856 marriage for Jane as Devine gave her mother as JANE Lambie. Jane's 1871 death cert gave her mother as MARY Lambie, wife of William Ferguson. Mother showed as deceased in 1871, which would make sense if she died in 1856.

What did it say re her mother in 1856? Alive or deceased?

Let's keep clear headed  ;D

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Re: census lookup request please 1871 lanarkshire, scotland
« Reply #59 on: Wednesday 05 November 14 14:51 GMT (UK) »
I to get the feeling this is Margaret Brown's family/parents.

i ALSO CHECJED THE jOHN bROWN 1876 BUT HE IS RECORDED AS "SINGLE"

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Re: census lookup request please 1871 lanarkshire, scotland
« Reply #60 on: Wednesday 05 November 14 15:04 GMT (UK) »
The Bothwell 1876 death...boo! The most obvious one wasn't it from what you and Maggie discussed before. Will have a further look. You do not want to go on a general look around for a 'John Brown' at any time. The one you looked at, stating the obvious as we know mistakes happen, had different parents to the one showing for John Brown on his 1856 marriage that you have?

I know there was a struggle to find Margaret in 1881, but think you found at least one possible earlier. The younger children are easier to find in 1881. Henry and Catherine look to be with their half brother John (eldest in 1861) and his young family in Ayrshire. Thomas is boarding separately in Bothwell area. Certainly looks like John is deceased by then as stated in Margaret's marriage entry.

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Re: census lookup request please 1871 lanarkshire, scotland
« Reply #61 on: Wednesday 05 November 14 15:09 GMT (UK) »
For another time...you have enough going on with direct line for now  ::)

But I think this is Benjamin Ferguson's marriage in Bothwell in 1860 https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XTYM-38X and his 1861 entry:

Benjamin Ferguson 19 Ironstone Miner b. Tyrone Ireland
Mary Ann Ferguson 20 b. Down, Ireland
Address: Legbranock, Holytown Bothwell

Tyrone certainly looks to be where the family hailed from doesn't it.

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Re: census lookup request please 1871 lanarkshire, scotland
« Reply #62 on: Wednesday 05 November 14 15:17 GMT (UK) »
looks like it. And there is another "mary ferguson". I think this is who Margaret's daughter born in 1883 was named after - her or the mother ms Lambie.