St. Paul's - Arran Quay / Bardin and Curry

[shanew147]

I was thinking there might be a gap in the register, or some missing pages - nothing noted in the NLI index around this time for either St. Michan's or St. Paul's, but there could be a few damaged pages not mentioned in these.

(St. Paul's was a large, busy parish so there's some overlapping registers)


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[shanew147]

There's a baptism  for a Arthur Bardin showing up mid 1850s on the free index on Rootsireland - have you already checked this ?

It could be Co. Dublin, but if it's the city, it has to be St. Pauls.


S.

[posapete]

I've just got the information thanks Shane, Arthur was baptised 25/08/1856, mind you it cost me 25 credits.

[shanew147]

Unfortunately the Records for St. Paul's are only on that website, so that's the only online choice at the moment.

I think St. Paul's records are now held at St. Michan's and you can request details if you have a date, or a search for records, but as far as I remember there is a charge for that also. Only 'free' source is the NLI - of course that depends on how much it costs to get there!



S.

[posapete]

I’ve been looking at my grandfather’s baby brother Francis Bardin who died in 1918 in Dublin at 4 North Brunswick; the informant at his death was Michael Murphy (inmate). I’m wondering if Francis Bardin was a prisoner or a resident of a Workhouse when he died in1918?  After researching Francis for only a few minutes it would seem that he was in and out of prison from the age of 17 until his death at the age of 34 for mainly minor offences. His death certificate states that he died of TB after spending almost 10 months in hospital.       

[hasta]

Yes, that address could indicate the North Dublin Union Workhouse but that address was part of a wider complex including several hospitals.
see
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,467829.0.html
also
http://www.workhouses.org.uk/DublinNorth/
for a clear explanation of the entire complex.
The 'inmate' Michael Murphy would have been an employee at the particular institution that Francis Bardin was admitted to.

[johnjensen]

I saw on another forum that someone had pointed out that familysearch.org had a transcription of Albert's birth with the surname recorded as Barnes:

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FPBG-V8Q
name:  Albert Barnes
baptism/christening place:  2 NORTH CITY, CITY OF DUBLIN, IRE
birth date:  15 Jan 1875
birthplace:  2 North City, City Of Dublin, Ire
father's name:  Patrick Barnes
mother's name: Margaret Curry

Searching on irishgenealogy.ie using surname Barnes shows Mary/Maria's baptism on 7/11/1864 as recorded under the surname Barns (even on the original register), parents Patrick Barns and Margaret Curry.  Also there are 2 earlier possibilities as offspring of Patrick and Margaret (though without Margaret's maiden name being confirmed), William in 1860 and Patrick in 1862.
See this link:
http://tinyurl.com/dylc8v7

[posapete]

Thank you for that information. Regarding Albert Barnes I had to see a solicitor and swear on oath to have Barnes changed to Bardin. You are most likely correct with regards to Patrick Barns and William Barnes, it's a pity Margaret Curry is not mentioned and that the address at birth do not match up. Even so I think you have done an excellent job so far, thank you for your time and effort.   

[posapete]

Thanks Hasta, On Francis's death certificate the cause of death was Pulmonary TB 9 months 26 days in hospital exhaustion certified. Poor great uncle, what a dreadful waste of a young life, only 34 years old.