St. Paul's - Arran Quay / Bardin and Curry

[bardinworld]

Thank's Shane, :- The 1911 census shows Richard Bardin, Patrick's son was living with his family at a house 3 in Palace St. (Royal Exchange, Dublin). His profession Printer Litho. Richard Joseph was born at 1 Walkey Alley. On Richards birth certificate it states the his Father Patrick was an Engine Driver @(looks like :- Richmond Sumali Cisyliuce? Hope you can figure that out Shane.

Hi,
I don't know if I can be of any help to you? But my name is Raymond Bardin and I am the great grandson of Richard Bardin of 3 palace street, son of Patrick.  My grandfather, Son of Richard and also named Richard fought in the Royal Navy. At the end of world war 1 and again in the first few years of world war 2. My father Francis is still alive and would remember his uncle's. If I can be of any help just let me know.

Regards
Raymond Bardin

[HugoBeauchamp]

A note of caution re some of RootsIreland's transcriptions.

Roots Ireland incorrectly recorded the marriage of my 2 x gt grandparents as having taken place in St Paul's whereas it actually took place in St Michans's.

Definitely worth checking on Irish Genealogy.

H

[posapete]

Hi Raymond, I'm delighted that you posted on this subject, more so that you are my sole Bardin cousin. My grandfather Albert Bardin and your Great Grandfather Richard were brothers. I know of 7 siblings and I've just discovered the eldest brother Arthur Bardin. Would love to make contact with you in order to swop family information, perhaps you might have a few surprises for me.
Regards
Pete 

[posapete]

Hi Raymond, further to your offer of help:-
Your G. Grandfather Richard J Bardin was born in 1869, and was married to Jane ?. According to my records he had 7 other siblings:- Arthur b abt 1856, Mary, 1864, Margaret Theresa 1872, Albert J (my grandfather) 1875, Christopher 1878, Mary Kathleen 1880 and Francis 1884. Between Arthur 1856 and Mary 1864, do you know of any other children I may have omitted?
Regarding your Grandfather Richard, I have him as being the eldest of 5 children, Richard 1899, William 1901, Dominic 1905, Patrick 1907, and Albert 1910. If you are able to fill me in with extra details Raymond, I'll be over the moon.     

[johnjensen]

The Arthur Bardin marrying in 1875 in the following list is clearly another son of Patrick and Margaret:

http://tinyurl.com/clxuxpl

Here is Arthur and family in 1911.  His age is listed as 55 which should be taken as approximate.
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Dublin/Inns_Quay/Mountjoy_St_/35251/

[posapete]

Thank you John for that. What I'm hoping to find out if Patrick Bardin and Margaret Curry had any children between Arthur 1856 and Mary 1864. Having an 8 year gap between children seems to be a little out of character for Patrick and Margaret  

[johnjensen]

That is a big gap alright. There must be more.  Well at least you have Arthur now, that's a start.  I wonder if there might have been a few infant deaths after Arthur arrived.  I notice that there is more than 1 person buried in the grave with Margaret, though this doesn't guarantee that they are from the same family.  However it might be worth the €10 to buy this record;

http://tinyurl.com/c7gbt6s

If you search for Patrick Bardin in 1908, also with Arran in the address, you will see no other records for burials in the same grave as him.

[posapete]

Patrick died 22 Feb 1908. Margaret his wife survived until 24 Nov. 1919 and died at 3 Palace St. at the home of her son Richard who was mentioned as the witness on her death certificate.

[johnjensen]

Yes, those are the exact years of death of the Patrick and Margaret who are buried in Glasnevin, with addresses in East Arran Street.

The death cert will list place of death which can of course be a different place to home address. Your earlier post (Reply no.2) though mentioned 28 East Arran St  as Margaret's place of death, rather than her son's house, with Richard in attendance.