1851-1861 census, Fordon, Sarah Ellen Myers

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After the 1851 and 1861 census entries for the family of Sarah Ellen Myers. She was born in Fordon in about 1848 and I am hopeful she was still in the area in 1851 and 1861.

Cheers

Mark

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This is Sarah & Family in 1851; looks like they may have been ag. labs judging by the early moves at the start of the family.


Forename(s)   Surname   Age   Sort   Birthplace   Living In   Piece No   Folio No   Comments   Page Order   Alpha Order
John   Myers   54   54.00   Foxholes   Fordon   HO107/2367   0409r      196801   151347
Ann   Myers   43   43.00   Crompton   Fordon   HO107/2367   0409r      196803   151242

Hannah   Myers   22   22.00   Hunmanby   Fordon   HO107/2367   0409r      196806   151317
Robert   Myers   14   14.00   Fordan   Fordon   HO107/2367   0409r      196802   151439

Ann E   Myers   10   10.00   Fordan   Fordon   HO107/2367   0409r      196799   151251

Obed   Myers   8   8.00   Fordan   Fordon   HO107/2367   0409r      196800   151421

John   Myers   5   5.00   Fordan   Fordon   HO107/2367   0409r      196804   151367
Sarah E   Myers   3   3.00   Fordan   Fordon   HO107/2367   0409r      196805   151450


Kind regards

Wobbly

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This is John Myers in 1861, a plough boy on a farm.

ID   ID1   Address   Place   Forename   Surname   Rel   Cond   Age   Sort   Occupation   Birthplace   County   Piece Number   Enum Dist   Folio   FolSort   Check   Notes


222498   281   Hind House   Elmswell with Kelleythorpe   John   Webster   Head   Mar   49   49   Farming bailiff to E D Conyers   Thwing   YKS   RG9/3608   10   054v   54.5      
222499   282   Hind House   Elmswell with Kelleythorpe   Sarah   Webster   Wife   Mar   52   52      Bishop Burton   YKS   RG9/3608   10   054v   54.5      

222506   289   Hind House   Elmswell with Kelleythorpe   John   Myers   Serv      15   15   Ploughboy   Fordon   YKS   RG9/3608   10   054v   54.5   

I have left on the head and his wife, but there were several plougboys, waggoners etc. Whole list can be sent if you want.

Rest to follow when I find them.

Wobbly

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This is Obed in 1861

ID   ID1   Address   Place   Forename   Surname   Rel   Cond   Age   Sort   Occupation   Birthplace   County   Piece Number   Enum Dist   Folio   FolSort   Check   Notes
246772   534   Farm House   Wold Newton   Obed   Myers   Serv   Un   18   18      Fordon   YKS   RG9/3614   08   106   106   

This John Myers and Sarah Ellen in 1861.

246792   554   Front Street   Wold Newton   John   Myers   Head   Mar   64   64   Farm Labourer   Foxholes   YKS   RG9/3614   08   106v   106.5      
246793   555   Front Street   Wold Newton   Sarah Ellen   Myers   Gdau      12   12   Scholar   Fordon   YKS   RG9/3614   08   106v   106.5      


Robert to follow.

There are many Myers relations in Humanby. I see that many of the Myers brothers were blacksmiths. I have found Sarah Ellen's uncles if you want them in 1861.

Wobbly

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Wobbly

Thanks very much. This is great stuff. I certainly would be interested in Sarah Ellens uncles.

Its interesting that John is married in 1861 but there is no trace of his wife, Ann.

Its also not obvious who Sarah Ellens parents are on the 1851 census so thats something for me to research further (based on an IGI entry for a Sarah Ellen christening in Hunmanby in 1848, her mother may be Ruth with no father - not sure of Ruths fate).

Do you or anyone have access to 1841 as well for John and Ann Myers family?

Cheers

Mark

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This Robert Myers:

229639   98751   Front Street   Weaverthorpe   Robert   Myers   serv      24   24      Fordon   YKS   RG9/3610   04   43   43      

This is a Jonathan Myers, born Foxholes, same place as John Myers, but 4 years younger.

ID   ID1   Address   Place   Forename   Surname   Rel   Cond   Age   Sort   Occupation   Birthplace   County   Piece Number   Enum Dist   Folio   FolSort   Check   Notes
272429   1040   High Street   Brompton   Jonathon   Myers   Head   Mar   58   58   Blacksmith   Foxholes   YKS   RG9/3621   03   33   33      
272430   1041   High Street   Brompton   Sarah   Myers   Wife   Mar   59   59      Rillington   YKS   RG9/3621   03   33   33      
272431   1042   High Street   Brompton   Edward   Myers   Son   Unm   25   25   Blacksmith   Rillington   YKS   RG9/3621   03   33   33      
272432   1043   High Street   Brompton   Jonathon   Myers   Son   Unm   16   16   Blacksmith   Brompton   YKS   RG9/3621   03   33   33      
272433   1044   High Street   Brompton   Sarah   Myers   Daur      13   13      Brompton   YKS   RG9/3621   03   33v   33.5      
272434   1045   High Street   Brompton   Thomas   Mason   Serv   Unm   22   22   Blacksmith   Brompton   YKS   RG9/3621   03   33v   33.5      
272435   1046   High Street   Brompton   Edward   Bankes   GSon      5   5      Malton   YKS   RG9/3621   03   33v   33.5      
272436   1047   High Street   Brompton   Alfred   Bankes   GSon      3   3      Malton   YKS   RG9/3621   03   33v   33.5      

This is Joseph Myers in 1861, born 2 years later than Jonathan but 2 years later than John.

ID   ID1   Address   Place   Forename   Surname   Rel   Cond   Age   Sort   Occupation   Birthplace   County   Piece Number   Enum Dist   Folio   FolSort   Check   Notes
229465   1226   Ganton Road   Foxholes   Joseph   Myers   Head   Widr   60   60   Blacksmith   Foxholes   YKS   RG9/3610   03   036v   36.5      
229466   1227   Ganton Road   Foxholes   Jane   Myers   Daur   Unm   26   26   Housekeeper   Foxholes   YKS   RG9/3610   03   036v   36.5      
229467   1228   Ganton Road   Foxholes   Thomas   Myers   Son   Unm   22   22   Blacksmith   Foxholes   YKS   RG9/3610   03   036v   36.5      
229468   1229   Ganton Road   Foxholes   Jonathan   Myers   Son   Unm   20   20   Blacksmith   Foxholes   YKS   RG9/3610   03   036v   36.5      

I had another  look for Ann but no sign in this Census. Maybe she is back at Cropton which is not on this census. By the way Humanby should be Hunmanby!

Wobbly

No access to 1841 census

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Again, Thanks

Thats tremendous

I'll do a bit of hunting regarding Ruth as there is no obvious death record on the index for her after Sarah ellens birth and before 1851. I'm quite certain that she is Sarah Ellens mother as I have also found the matching IGI christening records linking Ruth to the aunts and uncles of Sarah Ellen.

I will have a look on 1837 online for any death records that were not indexed correctly.

I know that Ruth was christened in Hunmanby on 14 Aug 1831

If she is still alive at this point, and is not on the 1851 census for this area, I need to spread the net a little further.

As for 1841, I may open another topic for others to view.

Thanks for all your help

Mark

   

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Okay; Ruth is not on the 1851 census=there is a Ruth but she is 16 and born in Rillington living at Old Malton, daughter of Edward.

I have found the aunts & uncles of Sarah etc in Foxholes in 1851, and also all the Myers groups who are in Hunmanby.

There was quite a collection there. I take it that you do not know the maiden name of Ruth or is that her surname anyway?

Wobbly

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I believe that Myers is her surname and she was an unmarried mother when Sarah Ellen was born/christened. Whether she married shortly after, or indeed died, I don't know. Equally she could have left the area entirely.

Its one of those where there are several scenarios and may only be proven by some kind of National index search. I could find no deaths for Ruth on 1837 online and so far, in indexes, have found no obvious marriage, thus forcing a name change by 1851.

In an ideal world, I'd do a national search on the 1851 census for all women with the name Ruth aged 19-21 and born in Fordon/Hunmanby.

I can but dream!