Bride Street Wexford

[shorts]

I am delighted to report that at least some more of the Wexford Swanson descendants are alive and well, here on Merseyside today. As with Laura (with whom I am in contact) my wife is also descended from James Swanson, b.1854 in Wexford and his son also James, born in Wexford in 1884. They moved to Liverpool about 1890/92 based on the fact their son John was born in Wexford in 1888 and their next child, Sarah was born in Liverpool in 1892.

Here is the Wexford Baptisim record for John Patrick Swanson b 21/06/1888 and Baptised the following day. It confirms that he later married a Clara Marr in Lverpool in 1914. 

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I thought there were 2 Swanson families but I can see now there is only one. I am now trying to find Lizzie (or Eliza) the marriage for her.

It appears that Lizzie Swanson had an illegitimate child in 1914 when she would have been aged approx 16.

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I thought there were 2 Swanson families but I can see now there is only one.  Just finding it strange that I cant find Bridget or my Great Grandmother Margaret.  I would think you are right.  Could be away in hospital etc.  At least I know she was born in 1888 and died in 1972 as I remember that well. 

A Bridget Swanson had an illegitimate child on 27/03/1911 which probably explains why she was not resident in the family home when the 1911 census was taken 6 days later.

[Hereman]

Dear 'Shorts'

Thank you so much for the update on John Patrick Swanson, with your help I've managed to confirm that John Patrick Swanson married Clara Marr (b.1892 in Liverpool, daughter of Edward Marr and Mary Murphy McConnell) They had three children, Margaret (1914) John James (1916-1932) and George (1918)
John Patrick died in Liverpool in June 1921 and Clara in June 1951

We are very grateful for your help, thank you,

Neil (aka 'Hereman')

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As with Laura (with whom I am in contact) my wife is also descended from James Swanson, b.1854 in Wexford and his son also James, born in Wexford in 1884. They moved to Liverpool about 1890/92 based on the fact their son John was born in Wexford in 1888 and their next child, Sarah was born in Liverpool in 1892.

It looks like there may have been at least one other child born between 1888 - 1892, William Baptised  on 9th December 1889.

[Hereman]

Thank you once again, as far as I can tell James Swanson/Mary Clear had eight children, five of whom were born Wexford, Elizabeth (1881) James (1884 my wife's grandfather) Mary Anne (1886, Laura's G.Grandmother) John Patrick and William as you have pointed out. William married Elizabeth Martin in Liverpool also in 1914 and together had 8 children by 1932. James and Mary had three more children in Liverpool, Sarah (1892) Patrick (b.1894-d.1895) and George (b.1897)

There are more Swansons in Liverpool about this time and I suspect they will also have Wexford links, if so I would assume they are part of the wider family, though as yet the reason for the move isn't clear.

Again many thanks for your assistance.

[shorts]

James Swanson/Mary Clear had eight children, five of whom were born Wexford, Elizabeth (1881) James (1884 my wife's grandfather) Mary Anne (1886, Laura's G.Grandmother) John Patrick and William as you have pointed out. William married Elizabeth Martin in Liverpool also in 1914 and together had 8 children by 1932. James and Mary had three more children in Liverpool, Sarah (1892) Patrick (b.1894-d.1895) and George (b.1897)

Here's the Wexford parish entry for the 1880 marriage of James & Mary and the 1884 Bapt entry for James. 

[Hereman]

This is amazing, thank you so much for your help!! This the first time we had a confirmed date for the marriage of James and Mary, not to mention a baptism date for James (pictured below circa 1930)

I wonder do the parish records suggest father's names for James/Mary as we have no idea presently?

I assume it is possible to purchase marriage certificates from the relevant body in Eire in much the same way as here in the UK? Of course I assume that requires a reference number of some sort and again presume the certificate would be of similar format including bride and groom's father's name/occupation?

Once again we are so grateful for generous help.  Kind Regards, Neil

PS Here's James Jnr

PPS While searching UK census records I found that in 1881 a John Swanson ( also a sailor) Wife, Mary, both born about 1853 'in Ireland' (though no details) with a one year old daughter Margaret (b. Ireland) were lodging with a 'Kenney' family in Liverpool and wondered in view of the small number of Swansons in Ireland generally, if these may have been related also?

[zakiemya10]

Hello Shorts

Thank you for that info on Lizzie Swanson.  Her son in fact died a few weeks after being born.  She married in 1915 but dont know who to ot if she had any more children.  Bridget Swanson (my Grandmother) had her son Patrick who I knew well being my dads half brother.  Bridget Swanson's father was called William.  Cannot find his birth but was wondering if he is a brother of the James who was born in 1854.  Have been looking at the posts of the Liverpool Swansons so could be related somewhere.  Thank you for the info.