Thomas Henry Hall

[daisymac64]

Hi all im trying to find parents for my Gramps Uncle i have the following info
marriage 1931 Headington Oxfordshire
Thomas Henry Hall and Phyllis Jones
Birth of Thomas Henry Hall 1909 Headington Oxford
Ive had a look on free bdms but i cant seem to link any couples up as Thomas,s parents would the only way be to purchaes his birth cert?
kind regards
 Daisy 

[rosie99]

Hi

Have you tried 'playing' with the 1911 index try looking for a Thomas Henry Hall bn c1909 in Headington District   
http://www.1911census.co.uk/search/tnaform.aspx?2

I think this could be his parents 
Marriages September qtr 1900   
Hall  Thomas Knight    Headington  3a 1687   
Slingo  Ellen     Headington  3a 1687

[daisymac64]

Hi Rosie ive checked the link but no joy thanks anyway ,i did see the marriage to Ellen Slingo as well as possible others my Gramp told me Thomas although born in headington his parents and him lived in horton cum studley? so his parents may of married at Thame or Wheatley maybe im not sure if horton cum studley is near these 2 places? also Thomas was from Romany stock and although Hall is an old Romany surname i m assuming his mother would of also possibly of been from a Traveller family so was expecting her to have a traveller surname i.e Smith,Buckland etc (hope that makes sense!)looks like this is going to be a bit harder to sort out then i thought!! kindest regards
  Daisy

[Pennie]

Hi Daisy ...

The parish of Horton-cum-Studley falls within the registration district of Headington.  If Thomas was born and/or married in HcS then this would be registered in Headington.

The following family appears on the 1911 census (residing in Headington registration district):

Thomas Knight HALL (born c1880)
Ellen HALL (born c1874)
Thomas Henry HALL (born c1909)

The marriage that Rosie has found for you looks very likely to be Thomas's parents.  Purchasing his birth certificate would confirm this.

Ellen is on the 1901 census with her mother and brother, as follows:

Holy Trinity, Headington
Jane SLINGO - widowed - Laundress
William SLINGO - single (blind)
Ellen HALL - married - Laundress (born Liddington, Oxon.)

Husband Thomas is not with them, so may have been away from home working.  There is no Thomas Knight HALL recorded on the 1901 census, and too many Thomas HALLs to decide which is the correct one without knowing his place of birth.

Pennie

[HarryW]

Having a quick look at this, I believe that Thomas Knight Hall was born at Headington Quarry.   There is a Thos Hall shown on the 1901 census born Headington Quarry aged 22, living in Kent as "Stoker 2nd Class" - married.

RG13 Piece 740 Folio 101 Page 2 refers.

edit:

From the OFHS Headington Quarry Holy Trinity PR transcript, baptism:

31 August 1879 Thomas Knight HALL son of William & Elizabeth

Harry

[HarryW]

Also from the OFHS Headington Quarry Holy Trinity PR transcript.


Marriage:

26 August 1900

Thomas Knight HALL, 21, bach, Naval Stoker, residing New Marston - father William - labourer
Ellen SLINGO, 26, spin - father William - stonemason (deceased)
Witnesses: John AUSTIN, Harriet Caroline HARRISS (sic)

Baptism:

23 Feb 1909 - Thomas Henry HALL son of Thomas Knight & Ellen James

Harry

[trish1120]

1881 Ellen is with her Father WILLIAM, Mason born c 1832, Tiddington, Oxford and Mother JANE born c 1833, Horspath, Oxford;
Plus siblings;
Elizabeth 1869
William 1870
+ they have a Grandson Joseph Harris age 5 living there.

1891 she is still at home and William is still alive aged 58.

1871 is interesting and although I cant fin a Marriage that fits it looks like Jane was nee Harris;
William SLINGO, 39
Jane, 39
Ann HARRIS, 12, Daug in Law
Louisa Harris, 9, Daug in Law
Elizabeth SLINGO, 3, Daug
William Slingo, 2, Son
Jane E Slingo, 69, Mother
RG10/1432/144/6

1851 William is with his Parents WILLIAM born c 1796, Wheatley, Oxford a Stone Mason and JANE born c 1802 Siddington a School Mistress. They are under Slinger.
HO107/1726/529/11

Trish

[trish1120]

Quote from Harry;
31 August 1879 Thomas Knight HALL son of William & Elizabeth

Now in 1881 Census thomas is with Parents WILLIAM born c 1841, Holton and HARRIET born c 1843 Holton.
Looking for a Marriage we have a possible on FreeBMD;
William HALL
Harriett KNIGHT, Sept 1867, Headington, 3a 855

So not sure why Christening has Mother as Elizabeth?
Or do I have the wrong Marriage?? and Census??

Also on the 1881 Census are Children;
AMY 1867, Holton
WILLIAM 1870, Wheatley
GEORGE 1872, Shotover
JESSE 1874, Forrest Hil
ELIZABETH, 1876, Headington Quarry
THOMAS, 1879, Headington Quarry##
RG11/1496/57/40

Is it possible to check any of these please Harry

1871 Census I think William is Eli W born c 1870, Amy may be An born c 1868 but there is also a Jane born c 1865.
This seems to be the only matching 1871 Census;
RG10/1433/25/42

[HarryW]

Just checked the baptism again - confirmed that the parents are William and Elizabeth.   I guess there is a possibility of a mis-transcription or the vicar had brain fade.

Looking at other baptisms:

25 Feb 1877 - Elizabeth daughter of William and Harriet
8 Mar 1883 - John son of William and Harriet

and from Forest Hill (on the same CD):

28 Sep 1873 - George son of William and Harriett

I think I may have the Wheatley CD - I'll check and post again if I do.

Harry