DUFF Partick or DUFF Peter? St Quivox

[barbatalice]

Two requests for assistance:
1.
Are Patrick DUFF and Peter DUFF the same person?
This is what I have:
1816 Helen HOUSTON married Patrick DUFF St Quivox

Helen HOUSTON & Patrick  DUFF had three children George 1816, Margaret 1817 & William 1823 (OPR St Quivox)

Helen HOUSTON & Peter DUFF had three children James 1819, Agnes 1821, Robert 1827 ( OPR St Quivox)

1841 & 1851 census Helen & Peter DUFF living with George, James & Agnes

1861 census Helen widow of Peter DUFF

1867 death of Helen DUFF wife of Peter DUFF

1870 death of William DUFF son of Peter DUFF - William's birth registration says Patrick

It looks to me as if Peter DUFF & Patrick DUFF are the same person

Does anyone have any leads that might shed light on this

2. Peter DUFF/Patrick DUFF died between the 1851 and 1861 census, possibly in St Quivox area, but I can't find his death in OPR or Stat deaths. 

Can anyone find a record of his death?
In 1851 Peter DUFF, 70, was living in Newton on Ayr, pauper formerly stonebreaker. 

Thanks

barbatalice

[AMBLY]

Hi there

"Patrick" often became "Peter" in Scotland , especially in the earlier records; they were quite interchangeable - though in my experience, once an individual started using "Peter", he tended to stick with it, rather than chop n' change.    Have come across this quite a bit.

http://medievalscotland.org/problem/names/padraig.shtml
"In modern Scottish Gaelic, Patrick exists in several forms: Pádruig, Páruig, Para, and Pádair or Pátair. This last form led to confusion with English Peter, and the two names were often treated as equivalent in the 18th and 19th centuries "

Cheers
AMBLY

[barbatalice]

Thanks Ambly
Now the two apparently unrelated sets of info can be joined together
Yee Ha!

Barb

[portybelle]

This is a great bit of info! I too have a Peter/Patrick conundrum from an Irish great great grandfather and was beginning to wonder if it was two brothers who married the same woman!! Thanks.