Gold Family - Cambusnethan, Lanarkshire

[Sysnode]

I have a marriage certificate for Daniel Ferguson and Helen F Frame.
Also I have birth certificate for George George in which Helen F Frame indicates that Daniel Ferguson is not the father as she has had no personal contact with him as he deserted her 4-months after their marriage and George was born two years after her marriage to Daniel Ferguson.  If you go on Ancestry.com I have uploaded all those certificates and you can download them for yourself.

[weered]

Sysnode,

Thanks but I already have all this information about the family.
I'm looking for what happened to the family (i.e. Helen and her children) when they went to the US. Isabella was married before you say she went to the US which I find confusing as she would have been Isabella Cleghorn.

Can you help?

You do have the right family but just for the record Daniel Gold and Elizabeth Donaldson had no children...they were too old...but he had his children with Grace Clarkson.

Regrds

[Sysnode]

Let's just be clear....I was searching for the parents of George Gold.  I discovered that George Gold's mother is Ellen F Ferguson, (aka....Helen Frame).  Helen/Ellen married a James Gold and had 5-children with James.  James died (1872), young leaving her with 5-young children.  Helen/Ellen remarried in Jun/1874 to Daniel Ferguson. Daniel Ferguson deserted Helen/Ellen in Sep/1874 leaving her with a 6th child by the name of Maggie Ferguson.  Helen/Ellen gave birth to her 7th child, George Stoddart Frame/Ferguson in April 20, 1879.  George's Birth Statutory indicated by Helen/Ellen that Daniel Ferguson was not his father because she had not personal contact with himj since Sep/1874 when he deserted her. 

Ellen Ferguson took all 7-children and arrived in New York on March 15, 1888.  George, the youngest of the 7-children was 8-years old.  Her other children are as follows:
1.  Daniel Gold  (born 1861)
2.  Isabella Gold (born 1864)
3.  John Gold (born 1866)
4.  Helen Gold (born 1868)
5.  James Gold (born 1870)
6.  Maggie Ferguson (born 1875)
7.  George Stoddart Frame/Ferguson Gold

I am attempting to track down the first 5-children to see if any of their children/grand children are still alive and living in the Pennsyvania area.  Since Helen/Ellen Gold/Ferguson died in Coal Glen, Pennsyvania it leads me to believe that her children all must have settled in and around that area of Pennsyvania.  George Gold, (my great grand father), is buried in Patton, Pennsylvania. 

If I find out anything on Isabella, I will definately post here for you.  You are welcome to visit my family tree on Ancestry.com listed as the Gold/McClintock Family Tree.

Are you a decendant of Isabella, (daugher of Helen/Ellen F Gold/Ferguson?

Regards
Larry Gold
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To All Whom Have Communicated With Me On This Subject/Topic

I have taken all the data provided by those in this chat along with information gathered on Ancestry.com.  From what I can see and understand:

Helen Frame-Gold-Ferguson:
Born abt 1841
Census 1851 - Cambusnethan, Lanarkshire, Scotland
1861 - Married James Gold
1861 - Domestic Servant
1871 - residence Cambusnethan Lanaarkshire, Scotland
1872 - Widoed (James Gold Died)
1872 - Children at time of Jame's Death: Daniel, Isabella, Helen, John, & James
1874 - June/12th; Married Daniel Ferguson
1874 - Sep; Daniel Ferguson deserted Helen
1875 - Helen gave birth to Maggie Fergeson
1879 - Apr/20th; Gave birth to George Stoddart Frame and/or Ferguson (Illegitimate Child - Father unknown)
1881 - Census lists Helen as Ellen with the following Children; Daniel, Isabella, Helen, Joh, James, Maggie, and George
1887 - Decides to leave for America; Ship Manifest lists the following; Helen Gold with James/18, Margt/11, George/8, and Grace/6 (not sure where Grace came from); apparently not all 7-children went with Helen; IF this is the same Helen/Ellen
1888 - January - arrived Port of New York
?? - No further informationi on Helen F Ferguson

If anyone has any additional information I would be truly greatful

George Gold (a.k.a George Stoddart Frame and/or Ferguson) went on to marry and have 3-sons

I continue to be obsessed with Helen's family and decendants. 

[Sysnode]

Nancy (Weered),
I hit a breakthrough in locating some of Ellen Frame-Gold-Ferguson family, after they arrived in the United Status on March 15, 1888.

Ellen and her children appear to have settled in the Coal Glen, Pennsylvania area.  Ellen's daugther Margaret married William Kane.  They are both buried in the Beechtree Cemetery in Jefferson County.  I have photos of their tombstones. 
Margaret:  Feb 13, 1875 - July 5, 1928

I am unable to locate anything on Ellen, but one strange yet exciting find was Margaret's Brother John R Gold (Jan 25, 1866 - 7/25/1892) buried here and his tombstone says, Son of James and Ellen Gold.  John did not accompany this mother to the states on March 15, 1888.  I have a ship manifest that proves he came over for a short visit twice.  Apparently during his second visit his pasted away and they buried him in the cemetery where Margaret and her husband are buried.   This find brought tears to my eyes.

Let me know if you find anything further on this family

Regards
Larry