Author Topic: Gold Family - Cambusnethan, Lanarkshire  (Read 14050 times)

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Re: Gold Family - Cambusnethan, Lanarkshire
« Reply #18 on: Sunday 17 April 11 18:18 BST (UK) »
Could it be that after the death of James Gold circa 1875, Ellen Frame remarried and her new name became Ferguson?
That would perhaps, explain the Ellen "F" Ferguson.

The IGI lists a birth for GEORGE FRAME GOLD, born in the parish of Carluke 22nd June 1871. Carluke has a common border with Cambusnethan, I think this must be him.
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Re: Gold Family - Cambusnethan, Lanarkshire
« Reply #19 on: Sunday 17 April 11 18:23 BST (UK) »
On the certificate it says that the occupation is below the parents name.
Father:  James Gold - Coalminer
Mother: Helen Gold - M.S. Framer

One would have to assume her occupation is a M.S. Framer
I am going to google that and see what I get

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Re: Gold Family - Cambusnethan, Lanarkshire
« Reply #20 on: Sunday 17 April 11 18:27 BST (UK) »
Per Google:
The Picture Framer (ML) - for all your framing requirements in Wishaw, Lanarkshire and the West of Scotland.

I guess she was a picture framer.  Pretty cool!

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Re: Gold Family - Cambusnethan, Lanarkshire
« Reply #21 on: Sunday 17 April 11 18:28 BST (UK) »
On the certificate it says that the occupation is below the parents name.
Father:  James Gold - Coalminer
Mother: Helen Gold - M.S. Framer

One would have to assume her occupation is a M.S. Framer
I am going to google that and see what I get

Like Sancti said M.S. stands for maiden surname - Helen Gold's maiden surname was Frame(r). She probably would not have an occupation as she was a married female.


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Re: Gold Family - Cambusnethan, Lanarkshire
« Reply #22 on: Sunday 17 April 11 18:31 BST (UK) »
Could it be that after the death of James Gold circa 1875, Ellen Frame remarried and her new name became Ferguson?
That would perhaps, explain the Ellen "F" Ferguson.

The IGI lists a birth for GEORGE FRAME GOLD, born in the parish of Carluke 22nd June 1871. Carluke has a common border with Cambusnethan, I think this must be him.

It looks like that George died in 1873.

Like I said there is a marriage of a Helen Frame and a Daniel Ferguson in 1874 at Cambusnethan.

Have you looked at George's birth or James's death entry yet Sysnode?

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Re: Gold Family - Cambusnethan, Lanarkshire
« Reply #23 on: Sunday 17 April 11 20:57 BST (UK) »
The James Gold who died in 1875 was the husband of Janet Frame.  His parents were Hugh Gold and Janet Jardine.

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Re: Gold Family - Cambusnethan, Lanarkshire
« Reply #24 on: Sunday 17 April 11 21:11 BST (UK) »
I think this is the certificate you want 628/00 0464
George Stoddart Frame or Ferguson born 20.4.1879  11.30a.m.  Stewarton Street, Wishaw
Helen Ferguson previously Gold MS Frame married to Daniel Ferguson, coalminer, who she declares is not the father of the child and further that she has had no personal communication with him since he deserted her in September 1874.

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Re: Gold Family - Cambusnethan, Lanarkshire
« Reply #25 on: Sunday 17 April 11 21:19 BST (UK) »
Helen Frame married James Gold in 1861.  She was a widow when she married Daniel Ferguson 12.6.1874.

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Re: Gold Family - Cambusnethan, Lanarkshire
« Reply #26 on: Monday 18 April 11 03:33 BST (UK) »
I truly appreciate everyone's help with this. 

I started with George Gold because I knew he was married to Elizabeth Grinnen; George and Elizabeth had two children, Robert and James

George's son James had a son named Howard

Howard had a son named Larry - Me

I have proof that George Gold was born on July 12, 1879 per copy of his World War I Draft Registration Card from September 12, 1918.

I also have proof that George Gold was 8-years old when he entered the United States in New York from Glasgow, Scotland via the Furnessia Ship on March 15, 1888 (George was 8-years old).
George was accompanied to New York by his mother Ellen F Ferguson (47-years old), his eldest brother Daniel Gold (age 26 years old), his sister Isabella Gold (24-years old), another sister Helen Gold (age 20-Years old), a brother John Gold (23-years old), a brother James (age 18-years old, another sister Maggie Gold (13-years old) all confirmed by the Furnessia Passenger Manifest log.

This gives me proof that Ellen F Furgeson was listed as the mother of the 7-Gold Children

After review of the ScotlandsPeople.gov I see that Helen I Gold was married to James Gold and lists 5 of the 7children listed on the Furnessia Ship Manifest. 
Is it possoble that Helen died and James married Ellen F Furgeson and Ellen gave birth to Maggie and George before James dies?  Birth dates provided by Kisyth, and Nel do not match to the confirmed dates I have on birth and death of George Gold.  I will continue my search on ScotlandsPeople.gove and IGL
Thanks again to everyone and I will continue to share and hope you do the same.