Gold Family - Cambusnethan, Lanarkshire

[Sysnode]

I am looking for birth, death, and marriage certificates for the following People:
Ellen F Ferguson married a man by the last name of Gold

George Gold, son of Ellen F Ferguson-Gold was born in 1879 in Cambusnethan, Lanarshire.  George's father seems to have disappeared and I am hoping to find a George's birth certificate in hopes it would list his parents.

Does anyone know how to search cemetery plots; a lot of cemeteries post the names of all who are buried and makes it easy to search online.

Any advice or direction would be greatly appreciated

[cookies4]

Hello,

According to the IGI George's older siblings were the children of James Gold and Helen Frame.

James Gold and Helen Frame married at Cambusnethan in 1861.

The following is guesswork based on free searches at SP.

I think James died before George was born.

There is a marriage indexed at SP of a Helen Frame to a Mr Ferguson in 1874 at Cambusnethan.

There is a birth of a George Ferguson indexed at SP in 1879 at Cambusnethan and also a George Frame (same year, same district). I don't have enough credits to look and see if they are the same person.

Hopefully this is your George.

[sancti]

1881 census

Ellen F Ferguson 40 Head born: Bothwell, Lanarkshire Occupation: Washerwoman
Daniel Gold 19
Isabella Gold 17
Helen Gold 13
John Gold 16
James Gold 11
Maggie Gold 6
George Gold 2

Address: 8 Mc Alpine Street Wishaw

[Sysnode]

Thank you Cookies4 and Sancti:

Cookies, I don't believe you have the same George Gold as I do.  George Gold is my great grandfather and was 8-years old when he arrived in New York from Glasgow. 

Per Sancti, the information you provided matches what I was able to trace on Ancestry.Com and matches exactly to the information I was able to gather from my dad and his brother. 

Cookies4 & Sancti; Something happened in Cambusnethan, Lanarkshire that caused Ellen F Ferguson, mother of George Gold to move her family to the United States.  Apparently Ellen F Ferguson's husband died leaving her with 7-children, George being the youngest. 

I am anxious to find out what happened to George's dad.  I am trying to find a birth certificate for George that would list who his father is. 

Thanks to Cookies4 and Sancti for your quick replies.  Let's keep up the search

[cookies4]

Hello again,

Yes we are trying to find info on the same George. I had looked at the 1881 census and to confirm parents names I went back further with the family.

There is no doubt in my mind that this is George's family in 1871 at Gillhead, Cambusnethan -

James Gold   33 born Douglas
Helen I Gold   33 born Cambusnethan
Daniel Gold   9
Isabella Gold   8
John Gold           6
Helen Gold   3
James Gold   1

A parent search at the IGI shows the mother to be Helen Frame.

James is with his parents in 1861 -

Danial Gold   56
Elizabeth Waddel   56
James Gold   24 son, born Douglas
Ellen Fram   20 boarder, born Dalziel
Jenet Alston   14
Elizabeth Fram   12
Lether Fram   5

A James Gold married Helen Frame in March 1861.

If you look at the original it will show if Ellen is married or not on the census.

There is a death in 1875 of a James Gold (who is roughly the correct age) at Cambusnethan.

1 credit shows that there is a birth indexed in 1879 of a George Stoddart Frame and one for a George Stoddart  Ferguson at Cambusnethan. They both have the same entry number so it is the same person.

Regards,
Nel

[sancti]

There are no births registered in Cambusnethan for George Gold born c1879

[Sysnode]

It is possible that we are looking for the same George.  Through Ancestry.Com I am certain that the George Gold I have found, based upon birth and death information from my dad is that George was 8-years old when he arrived in New York, (on the Furnessia Ship), with his Mother Ellen F Ferguson-Gold on March 15, 1888. 

Ellen F Ferguson lived at 8 McAlpine Street with 7-children according to a census taken in 1881.  George would have been 2-years old, and the youngest of 7-children. 

George Gold's wife was Elizabeth Grinnin; they had two sons, Robert & James.  James Gold is my grandfather.

It is killing me to know what happened to Ellen F Ferguson's husband.  She had to have been a very strong woman to pick up and move 7-children to a new country.

I hope this information is helpful to you

[Sysnode]

Based upon my information; Geoge Gold's dad would have to have lived at least until 1878-1879 to have fathered George.  Your records indicate that James Gold (possible father of George) died in 1875.  I don't see how this could be the same family.

I have several census reports that list and Ellen F Ferguson with 7-children the youngest being George.

[sancti]

From the information supplied from Nel it could be that George was the illegitimate son of Ellen F Ferguson

It may be worthwhile checking the birth that Nel posted