Code in a Non-Conformist Register

[Billyblue]

How intriguing!  Maybe this Presbyterian minister was an ancestor of Pitman?? 

The symbol like a circle with a cross under and a dot in the circle (Under the H in Hill) certainly looks like the medical symbol for female.
the symbol after 1799 in #64, I have seen before but don't remember what it means.  It's also in #69.  Maybe I've seen that in patient charts too.  Any medicos online?

I wonder did the author fancy himself as a doctor?
Dawn M

[Ruskie]

 

How fascinating! I believe there are some rootschat members who can read shorthand. Not sure which shorthand or which members though .... does anyone know?  

Can anyone make head nor tail of any of these?:
http://www.drawingsonwriting.org/page105.htm

It doesn't appear to be pitman .. perhaps one of the others? 

[Billyblue]

That's an interesting site, Ruskie!
In my ignorance, I thought Pitman was the first shorthand    

Re your question of making head / tail of those symbols, if you look at the top of the set you will see the alphabet and most of them have approx. 26 symbols, so I'd say they are the roman alphabet letters shown in those various shorthand systems.

My shorthand is not shown on that list, but it has many similarities with Pitman, and I can recognise some of the Pitman letter symbols.

Dawn M

[sargie]

  Which Framlingham are you talking about - is it in UK??

Framlingham is in Suffolk, England.  There are probably towns with the same name in other countries, but the second extract from the register mentions Ipswich and Bungay, which are also in Suffolk.

[weste]

I noticed the female symbol also.  The script does look like shorthand but where was the pitman shorthand derived from.  May be it's latin abbreviations. The 2 lines together towards the end usually are used to indicate a new paragraph i thought. The one c has a line above it and usually indicates the word with. Looks a bit like tee line shorthand. Not sure whether i've spelt that right.

[Greensleeves]

I am assuming that like Pitman, this is phonetic. I used to be a verbatim shorthand writer in the past, but I can't read this, despite the fact that it does at first glance bear a close resemblance to Pitman shorthand.

[Colin Cruddace]

I'm still trying to get my head round those dates, as in 65 and 66. One looks like the date of death but what is the earlier date or year for after their name? The other doesn't appear to refer to a death at all.

[HeatherLynne]

How fascinating!  I too would love to know what the rest of the entry about Joseph Barker says  

I learnt Pitman New Era shorthand in the early 1980s but I can't decipher any of  this.  Ruskie's link is very interesting, the Pitman line does show the strokes used to write sounds closest to the letters although of course when you're writing in shorthand spelling is immaterial as you are recording the sounds only.  When you consider that the first six strokes you learn are written thus:

\ 'pee'    \ 'bee'    | 'tee'   | 'dee'  / 'ch'    /  'j'

then any code is quite likely to contain strokes that look like these.

I can't quite work out what the register is listing, at first it looks like deaths/burials but then later it mentions people who are alive.  It's almost like a list of his 'parishoners' but counting all the dead folk too - very odd.

Heather

[netti]

what a coincidence! I was shown a religious book yesterday (possibly non-conformist) which has a page of hand written code in it. I have been googling for ideas and then thought I would check on here to see if anything similar had turned up. imagine my surprise to see this as the top thread!

here is the page of code - sadly not similar to the one mentioned here