Ward Family Bangor Census Lookup?

[sheila_mc]

Trying to locate my Grandfather's info and ultimated his birth certiificate.
He said he was from Bangor, although his Canadian Army information states Belfast  was his birthplace. Haven't had any luck with the Belfast side, so hopefully can find something out in Bangor.

This is mainly from the Army papers I have:

Joseph Patrick Ward b Jan 2 1891
father Michael Ward, Corporation Inspector 1915 Belfast (according to the 1915 directory)
one sister Bridget.

That's all of the info I have other than that he said he served 6 months in the RIR prior to December 1915 and he did visit Belfast while a Canadian Ambulance Driver in WW1.
He obviously was in Canada by 1915.

Thanks to anyone that can help in anyway.

Sheila
Vancouver

[Jarvey50]

Came across your message today. I looked at records but cannot trace a birth for either Joseph or Patrick on the date you have given. Nor could I trace someone of that age (approx) and name on the census for Bangor.
Ward is a famous name in Bangor of one of Bangors wealthy families. A park being names after them ie Ward Park.
Do you know his Mothers maiden name? This might help.

[sheila_mc]

Thanks for your help Jarvey. We actually went to the Churches out there and looked at their old records, and still couldn't find any sign of either one of them. I am thinking that Belfast is a better guess -as his Dad worked for the City, and that he sent remittances to him from the Army there.

His mother is listed on his marriage certificate as Kathleen and Katherine Kelly - so not sure which one it is.

Sheila

[aghadowey]

I'm fairly certainly that I've found your Ward family and there might be a few surprises for you but it will take me a little while to get this all typed up so will post again later.

[aghadowey]

As I mentioned, I'm fairly sure that I've found your Ward family although some of Joseph Patrick's Canadian information didn't make it very easy to find them!

Starting with his attestation papers & Army records. Best clue is father's name and occupation which has made it possible to track them down in Belfast. He's given his mother as Katherine/Catherine Kelly and this is only partly correct- mother was Catherine McKenna and stepmother was Mary Kelly! Since he was so young when his mother died and probably thought of Mary as his mother it's not surprising.

Michael Ward (c1865/c1852 Co.Derry-17 Aug.1925), son of John, m.1 (6 Oct.1883 Belfast) Catherine McKenna (d.1892?), dau. of Edward, m.2 (29 Jan.1893 Belfast) Mary Kelly (c1875/c1868 Co.Tyrone-aft.1911), dau. of Matthew
     ? death Catherine Ward (c1864-1892) https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FTCR-YY4
     1901- clerk, Ogilvie St. http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Down/Ormeau/Ogilvie_Street/1211894/
     1910- Ward, Michael, street inspector, 1 Oberon Street http://www.lennonwylie.co.uk/alphanames1910TUVWXYZ.htm
     1911- house cleaning inspector, Oberon St. http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Down/Ormeau/Oberon_Street/227251/
     1915- 2 New St. Belfast
     1918- Ward, Michael, Corporation inspector, 320 Woodstock Rd http://www.lennonwylie.co.uk/alphanames1918TUVWXYZ.htm
     Ward Michael of Knocknagow Fruithill Park Upper Falls county Antrim house cleansing inspector died 17 August 1925 Administration (with Will) Belfast 13 October to Matthew Aloysius Ward commercial traveller. Effects £931.
1.   Margaret Ward (26 Sept.1884 Belfast)
2.   John Edward Ward (15 May 1885 Belfast-aft.1911)
3.   daughter (23 Oct.1886 Belfast)
4.   Joseph Ward (2 Nov.1887 Belfast)
5.   daughter (23 May 1888 Belfast)
6.   James Ward (2 July 1890 Belfast)
7.   daughter (9 Dec.1892 Belfast-1892?)
          Is this same child? Katherine died 1892 https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FTCT-MTL

1.   Matthew Aloysius Ward (23 Dec.1893 Belfast-10 July 1956) m. Cecilia
          Ward Matthew Aloysius of Tudor House Cranleigh Surrey died 10 July 1956 at Royal Surrey County Hospital Guildford Surrey Probate London 18 September to Cecilia Ward the widow. Effects in Northern Ireland £679 10s. Re-sealed Belfast 5 December.
2.   Michael Francis Ward (14 Dec.1895 Belfast-aft.1911) birth: male
3.   Eileen Margaret Ward (27 Sept.1903 Belfast-aft.1911) Birth: lleen

I wondered if one of the un-named daughters was the sister Bridget but no luck in getting her in 1901 or 1911 so far.

[sheila_mc]

Wow - I hope this turns out to be the long lost branch that I've been searching for! Thank you so much for your research and efforts - I'm excited to go and check this out :-)

Sheila

[aghadowey]

I think that Joseph Patrick will turn out to be 'James' (born 2 July 1890) but more proof is needed.

Perhaps start searching for 'James' in passenger lists going to Canada since 'Joseph' hasn't been found yet?

Perhaps check baptisms to see the name listed (as well as the un-named children- might find Bridget that way). There are a few Belfast parishes so rather than looking through all of them might help to search more of the online directories to get addresses for the family for the period the children were born.
http://registers.nli.ie/#home_map

http://www.lennonwylie.co.uk/
http://www.proni.gov.uk/index/search_the_archives/street_directories.htm

Also, Michael Ward's Will might give details of all his surviving children (although it looks like it wasn't probated it seems to be with the administration paperwork in PRONI, Belfast).