George ARKWELL - Shotley

[Jebber]

ARKWELL
William Alfred born  21 December 1870, bp. 22 January 1871 Harwich  parents William and Emily.

George Ernest  born 21 December 1872 bp. 13 March 1873 at Shotley,

Annie Rose  born 20 January  1875 bp. 14 March 1875 Eastbourne


This from the Army records of his father.

Jebber

P. S. Gunner William ARKWELL b. and Emily CATT sp. married 26 Aprl 1870 at St. Mary, Eastbourne.
Wits. William STONELAKE & Emily STONELAKE

[cath151]

Hmm..
Marriage JAS 1890 Tendring
William Alfred Arkwell same page Ellen Martha Orman

1891 census Rg12/1407 37/44
Ellen Arkwell  head  m  20  Brightlingsea, Essex.
Living with some more married ladies at 2, Fairfax road, St Giles.

Gets curiouser and curiouser!
Cathy
ps. ramzy2 , apologies for army info, i see you have details already and lovely photo on   family  tree on Ancestry.

[ramzy2]

Can you tell us all the information you already have about him?
I see from your latest post that you have a wife's name and year of marriage - what else have you got?
Remember 1881 census is free to search - have you found him on there?

If you have his marriage - have you found his fathers name from the marriage cert?

as far as i know .


Birth:1873, shotley Suffolk, England. as on his enlistment papers he joined th the royal field arttiary at 14.11 months in 1887 until he had accident with a gun carrage
with a busted leg t


Lived In (Residence):6 Castle Bank, Lewes; 6 Castle Banks, Lewes.


Death:1938, Lewes, Sussex, England.


Family Members:Spouse:frances johnson, Children:Frances E Arkwell, Agnes G Arkwell, emily grace arkwell, percival victor arkwell, ethel audrey arkwell, george ernest arkwell, harry douglas arkwell, charity kathleen arkwell.


Marriage:1913, Sussex, East Sussex, my mother was ethel a arkwell b1913

[ramzy2]

Hi Ramzy, and welcome to RootsChat!

Where did your grandparents marry?

The only marriage I can see on the GRO index for 1913 is between George E ARKWELL and Mary Elizabeth JOHNSON.  (Mar Q, Lewes 2b 331)

This is probably the same George E ARKWELL who died Mar Q 1938 aged 65.  (Lewes 2b 288)

However, George Ernest ARKWELL of Lewes (aged 42) gives his wife as "Frances E" on his WW1 pension documents in 1914.  

There is no obvious birth registration in the GRO index, and no George Arkwell on census except the one Kerry found, unless he's hiding under a very bad transcription or something!  Iis it possible that he was married twice?  He would have been 40+ when he married in 1913, so it's not impossible.

Added: post crossed with lizb!

Rambler

yes as far as i know they married in lewes all the kids were baptised in st johns sub castro church lewes just down the road from were they live

[Jebber]

Here he is as Ernest  with his parents in 1881.


RG11 piece 1037 folio 32 page 25  Crown Lane, Eastbourne
ARKWELL, William Head Married M 48 1833 Bricklayers Labourer Gloucester Gloucestershire
ARKWELL, Emily Wife Married F 31 1850  Willingdon Sussex
ARKWELL, Alfred Son Single M 10 1871 Scholar Harwich Essex
ARKWELL, Ernest Son Single M 8 1873 Scholar Landgard Suffolk
ARKWELL, Anne Daughter Single F 6 1875 Scholar Eastbourne Sussex
ARKWELL, Agnes Daughter Single F 3 1878 Scholar Eastbourne Sussex

[ramzy2]

thanks i was thinking ernest of langard was but the george ernest was putting me off. now to try and sort out the confusion about my g/mother
i have my g/mothers birth certificate she was born on the 10th march 1890
father was george johnson mother was a eliza johnson (nee pilfold)
born in lewes died in lewes 1961 .

[Suffolk Mawther]

Landguard is an area of Felixstowe, just across the estuary from Shotley.

http://www.landguard.com/

Pat ...

[unclepom]

I think I have made an error with my first post on this chatroom.  My username should read unclepom not ramzy2 ! ramzy2 had posted some info on a relative of mine, he was my grandfather.
 My mother was his eldest daughter Frances Elizabeth Scott nee Arkwell.  I apologize for the lack of knowledge on how to use this site but will persevere if allowed.

[ramzy2]

sorry so long getting back
my mother's name is Ethel arkwell
George  is my grand dad to