Place names COMPLETED

[Mackiwi]

Greetings all,

I am trying to identify 2 place names on 1861 & 1871 census.
Place of birth 1861 looks like Canado
1871 place of birth looks like America W C
they are 2 different members of the same family, one a son the other a daughter.
The rest of the families were born in the Sorn and Mauchline areas.

All suggestions welcome.

Mackiwi 

[Ruskie]

Can you tell us their names, so we can take a look for ourselves? Reference numbers would be good too if you have them. 

The obvious first thing that comes to mind is Canada ....

[Mackiwi]

1861 Census John Porter age 8 address C Mont-d Bridgend, Sorn Ayrshire place of birth Canado

1871 Census Jessie Porter age 16 address, looks like Townhead, ( mother was an Innkeeper in High street at that time) place of birth looks like America W C

Their father was an ag labourer in 1861, and in 1871 he was a forrester.

Very confusing

Mackiwi 

[Ruskie]

I only have access to the 1861 on Ancestry which is a transcription - the original image is not viewable. According to Ancestry, John, Janet and James were all born in Canada. The oldest, George and youngest, Robert were born in Sorn. Address is given as 11 Montd Bridget. 

[Ruskie]

I can see John and James in the 1871 census as farm servants in Mossbong (?) Tarbolton, Ayrshire. Both are born Canada.

I haven't located Jessie as yet but I think she is likely to be the 6 year old Janet in the 1861 census.

I can't find any of the other family members on the 1871 census. I will keep looking ... 

[Ruskie]

By 1881 father George is a spirit merchant. The family are living in High St, Mauchline and have 7 children (that they don't have in 1861 ...  ) some born in Sorn and some in Mauchline. Looking at the births they appear to have moved to Mauchline between 1867 and 1869.

[Jessie 46]

Hi Ruskie,
              That is Mossblown near Tarbolton in Ayrshire had a lot of ancestors there around that time but they were mostly coal miners.


Jessie

[Mackiwi]

Thank you

Just had another look at the 1861 Census from S P C Mont_d Bridgend is the name of the road or street that they lived in.
It also has George, Robina, & son George age 10 as born on Sorn.
I wonder if Canado or Canada is the name of a farm in the area in 1861, as George senior was an Ag Labourer.

Mackiwi

[Ruskie]

Thanks for the clarification about Mossblown Jessie.

Mackiwi, in the 1861 census the youngest child Robert, as well as the oldest George, is also born in Sorn. The birthplace of John Janet and James definitely appears to be Canada (transcribed as such in both 1861 and 1871 censuses). If you look at all the other people's places of birth it says "Sorn, Ayrshire" or similar, however it's just plain Canada for these three. If it was a farm for example, you would assume that the enumerator would write "Canada, Ayrshire" wouldn't you? 

Of course I only have the transcriptions to go by, not images of the original documents.

Could you please give more details about Jessie and the rest of the family in 1871. I have searched far and wide but cannot locate them. There's obviously some kind of mistranscription but I've even tried searching by just first names and still no luck .... 

Would it be beyond the realms of possibility that George, Robina and family spent some time in Canada (the country)?