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Missing Alma Daphne GROSE(nee CRANE)
« on: Monday 11 April 11 01:52 BST (UK) »
Hi,

Now that I have started my family tree my husband is keen,  but he is not good with the computer so:

His Great Grandmother was Hannah Elizabeth Crane  born 1890 in Rockhampton she married Charlie Assay (Japanese) in 1910 not exactly the done thing back then, so

I have got all Charlies information  he arrived on the Yamashiro Maru in 1898.

Hannah had a daughter in 1907 Alma Daphne CRANE 1907/C10415 bdmq Alma married James Thomas GROSE in 1924 but no trace of her after that.

Hannah died early age 32, 1923 she is my husbands grandmother.  Charlie remarried and lived until 1962.

So if there is anyone out there with information about Alma or any other family it will be greatly appreciated.



Thank you
Terri
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Re: Missing Alma Daphne GROSE(nee CRANE)
« Reply #1 on: Monday 11 April 11 02:13 BST (UK) »
Hi,

If you go the the Trove site, advanced, for indexed OZ newspapers, click on the appropriate Rockhampton Newspaper box & search for your names.  I found a brief description of Hannah's sudden death. Best wishes, Gazania

http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/search?adv=y
ALDERMAN, Bucks
BELK, Yorkshire, London
CARLING, Bedfordshire
CUNDITH,CUNDILL, Yorkshire, PALIN. Lincolnshire
FOX, Essex; Camberwell Surrey
LANE, Cork IE;Askeaton LIM, Liverpool, Clifton, Bristol
VOLLER, Surrey
WALL Clonlara Co Clare Ireland
WAREHAM, Esher, Surrey; London
WINCH, Surrey

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Re: Missing Alma Daphne Grose(nee Crane)
« Reply #2 on: Monday 11 April 11 02:27 BST (UK) »
Hi Terri,

Some Electoral Roll info.

Queensland State Electoral Roll 1915
The Electoral  District of Rockhampton
Assay, Hannah Elizabeth, 124 Bolsover st., housewife.

1930, Capricornia, Gladstone.
Grose Alma Daphine, Roseberry street, home duties.
Grose James Thomas, Roseberry street, shunter.

1934, Capricornia, Gladstone.
Grose Alma Daphine, Roseberry street, home duties.
Grose James Thomas, Roseberry street, shunter.

1936, Capricornia, Fitzroy.
Grose Alma Daphne, 116 Stanley street, home duties.
Grose James Thomas, 116 Stanley street, porter.

1937, Brisbane, Ithica.
Grose Alma Daphne, 86 Annie street Torwood, home duties.
Grose James Thomas, 86 Annie street Torwood, shunter.

1943, Herbert, Bowen.
Grose Alma Daphne, Gordon street Bowen, home duties.
Grose James Thomas, Gordon street Bowen, guard.

1949, Herbert, Bowen.
Grose Alma Daphne, Gordon street Bowen, home duties.
Grose James Thomas, Gordon street Bowen, guard.

1949, Wide Bay, Bundaberg.
Grose Alma Daphne, 77 Colman street, home duties.

1954, Wide Bay, Bundaberg.
Grose Alma Daphne, 77 Colman street, home duties.
Grose James Thomas, 77 Colman street, railway guard.

Regards
Gerry









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Re: Missing Alma Daphne GROSE(nee CRANE)
« Reply #3 on: Monday 11 April 11 02:34 BST (UK) »

Queensland PO Directory 1915 (Wise)
ROCKHAMPTON
Fitzroy St.
124 Assay, Chas, laundry.

Gerry


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Re: Missing Alma Daphne GROSE(nee CRANE)
« Reply #4 on: Monday 11 April 11 02:47 BST (UK) »
Hi Gerry & Aussie,

Thanks for that, that's good,  my mother in law has never even heard of Alma which is sad, obviously she may not have been a full blood relative of her father Alfred Oliver Assay but she was at least his half older sister.

So she may have been brought up by Hannahs mother Elizabeth as Hannah was disowned for marrying a Japanese man "oh the tangled webs we weave"

The article in the Rockhampton Bulletin about Hannahs death is very interesting and I will be  going to Rockhampton shortly and can visit her grave.

Thank you for the help :)
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Re: Missing Alma Daphne GROSE(nee CRANE)
« Reply #5 on: Monday 11 April 11 03:39 BST (UK) »
Hi,

Looks like Hannah lost some babies: see South Rockhampton:

http://www.rockhamptonregion.qld.gov.au/Your_Community/CemeteriesCrematoriums

Bye Gazania
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Re: Missing Alma Daphne GROSE(nee CRANE)
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 18 September 11 10:31 BST (UK) »
Hello Terri . I only read your post yesterday .Alma Assay was the daughter of Hannah Elizabeth Crane(Assay )who was sister to my father John Oliver Gordon Crane who was the baby of the family .I have the Flack Crane family done back to the 1690's . I have been in regular contact with Almas daughter and her brother lives a couple of hours from me .Can help you .

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Re: Missing Alma Daphne GROSE(nee CRANE)
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 18 September 11 11:47 BST (UK) »
Hi D.

How exciting, I just thought of Alma today out of the blue.  Lets see if I have this right so your Grandmother was Elizabeth Crane (nee Brooks) and she is also my husbands Great great grandmother, is that right?  Hannah is my husbands g grandmother and her son Alfred Oliver is my husbands grandfather. 
Was Alma actually an Assay nobody knows from my husbands family?
Wow so Alma's children are my mother in laws cousins? and you are her Great Auntie or Uncle?
Thanks so much for replying perhaps we can send a personal message to each other and exchange email addresses so you can maybe fill in some gaps.  I look forward to your reply.

Kind Regards

Teri ;D
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Re: Missing Alma Daphne GROSE(nee CRANE)
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 18 September 11 14:29 BST (UK) »
Hello Teripat, where do i start.. i am the daughter of earlston charles assay, who was the brother of alma daphne. my grandmother was Hannah elizabeth Crane. I have read all your remarks and questions in the rootschat. this was sent to me by Dell Darrach. All i know about my Aunty Alma, was that she was a child born out of wedlock to my japanese grandfather( big NO NO in those days), however they did marry and had lots more children. i was led to believe that my dad was the eldest boy. well living that is , my grandparents had 2 more children older than my dad but they died.. When my dad was dying 13 years ago, i came from new zealand and spent his last 5 days alive with him in hospital. he kept calling to Alma and reaching to the ceiling. i can only think this was his sister who had come to help my dad with his journey beyond..i also did meet a cousin whose mum or grandmother was aunty Alma, he was living in Rockhampton, Queensland, Australia..i can not remember his name..i hope you will stay in touch with me, and we can hopefully find out more of our family..

Janette Assay ( Walsham, married name)
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