Baptism

[june1641]

I am looking for a baptism of Richard PLATT around 1802. 
He appears on 1851 census, in London, under Richard FLATT, aged 49, and place of birth Mundford. I have been to NRO and can find no trace of him.
He married in London in 1820 and quite clearly signed as PLATT. he then dies in 1853.   His children are born in London.   The name has also be transcribed as Hatt and Hett.
I will be very grateful if anyone can come up with an idea to help me further.

I go to Lewes Record Office in Sussex on a monthly basis as would be prepared to carry out research for anyone who cannot go there.
Thank you.

[kaysii]

Have not found any likely candidates in the transcribed sources. So it will be a long trawl through the records. Many of the records for Norfolk are online at family search. https://www.familysearch.org/
If you use their mapping function you can find the parish and those that are neighbouring http://maps.familysearch.org/.

If the parish records are not available from these parishes, you could then try looking up baptism records from the archdeacon transcripts.
kaysii

[Andro93]

   June,

          I happened to notice your reference to Richard Flatt/Platt. The Pilot site on Family Search has images of Norfolk parish registers and for Mundford there is the following: "John, son of Richard Flatt and Rebecca his wife (late Rebecca Towler) was baptised privately 21st January 1802." Now, earlier, we read "Elizabeth, daughter of Richard Flatt and Rebecca his wife, late R.Towler of Buckenham Parva, was baptised publicly 1st December 1799." The writing is crystal clear and the name is Flatt. I think John must be your "Richard". Perhaps he had the middle name Richard, or perhaps he used that name. When I'm next at the Family History Centre I'll look for further information. With good wishes,

                                 Andrew Wilson (originally from Lincoln with some Norfolk ancestors).

[june1641]

Andrew,
Thank you very much for the information. It does sound like a possibility.  I haven't a clue where Buckenham Parva is but the maps will be out after I have sent this reply.  I am sorry it has taken me so long to answer but I am new ro Rotschat and I thought I had to wait for an e-mail to notify me of an answer.  I have waited over 20 years to find a link so you have made me very happy.
Have a good weekend.
Best wishes,
June Johnson

[Andro93]

   June,

          Thank you for your message. It will be Little Buckenham now, as I'm sure you know. I'm glad you have reminded me of this, as I hope to go to the Family History Centre tomorrow morning, after two or three weeks of not going there!! If I find anything I will let you know,

                                                                 Andrew Wilson

[june1641]

Andrew,
Thank you very much I do appreciate all the effort you are going to.  Enjoy your visit.
June

[Andro93]

   June,

          Thanks for your message. I saw the image relating to the marriage in 1820 and it certainly seems to me to say Platt. That is definitely mysterious, as the 1851 and 61 Censuses say Flatt. Are you absolutely certain that Richard Flatt who died in 1853 was married in 1820, to the sixteen-year-old Ann(e). I would have expected the marriage record to say "with the consent of parents" in that case, but perhaps they pretended to be older than they were. Do you think Henry b1825 is their first child? Might Ann be a different person from Ann Tate?

           The Family Trees submitted by many people to Ancestry.com, which are often inaccurate, divide into two groups. Some have the Richard Flatt who died in 1853 married to Martha. This is Martha Pizzey, who married a Richard Flatt in Stepney in 1831. However, these trees are bogus as this Richard and Martha died in Marylebone in 1833 and 1837 respectively. The other half of the family trees do have Richard married to Ann Thornton Tate b1804. I think this Richard must be related to the Richard and Rebecca Flatt of Mundford. However there is no baptism recorded for Richard Flatt jnr in the Anglican records for Mundford. Maybe he was not baptised. Perhaps the family were Quaker, Baptist or other. Perhaps Richard is a nephew of Richard and Rebecca. I discovered that the modern name of Buckenham Parva is Buckenham Tofts. Anyway I will continue to search for clues and I know from searching for ancestors of my gtgfather John Nickols that they can be elusive!!  Good wishes, Andrew

[june1641]

Hello Andrew,
Yes I am sure about Ann Thornton Tate being the mother.  I have never found Henry's bapt. but I do have bapts. for Mary Ann & Sarah Cape on 02 03 1845  and Robert & George on 09 03 1845 all stating Mother as Ann Flatt.  I also found a bapt on the IGI for a Richard William Flatt born 03 07 1821 bapt.19 08 1821 to a Richard William Robert Flatt and Ann.  This was the ist I knew of all these other names for Richard. If this is correct and belongs to this family then his the first born but I do need to check the original on this.
I agree with you about the family trees being inaccurate.  My friends are fed up with trying to get people to listen to the corrections when we know that have been checked.
Best wishes
June