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Re: Help please
« Reply #9 on: Friday 08 April 11 08:16 BST (UK) »
I think it might say "stole 50 (or  80) lbs silk"

LOL of course.....can see 50/80 lbs now!!!!  ::) must have been too early for the eyes!! :P
Stealing 50lbs of silk seems much more of a crime than selling it!!!!

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« Reply #10 on: Friday 08 April 11 14:42 BST (UK) »
DeeG
Everyone sent to the prison hulks did not necessarily get transported, though most did.

Sometimes they were on the hulks so long that they completed their sentence there!
Others died while on the hulks (they were very overcrowded, generally)
A few got remissions and freed early.

Whatever, it was quite common for them to be on the hulks for years.

Do you know where he went from the "Hardy"?

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« Reply #11 on: Friday 08 April 11 14:58 BST (UK) »
Hello..... :)

If you are in the UK and your local library subscribes to the Infotrac Gale Newspaper site you can access this article from home via your library card number.

The Derby Mercury (Derbyshire), Wednesday, August 24, 1831

Committed to Stafford county gaol, SAMUEL TURNOCK, M.J. Beard and John Hudson, the first charged with stealing at Leek, about eighty pounds weight of silk, the property of Samuel Milward, and the others with receiving the same, knowing it to have been stolen; and Eliza Wigley, charged with stealing at Burton upon Trent, various articles of wearing apparel, the property of William Barnett.

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« Reply #12 on: Friday 08 April 11 15:42 BST (UK) »
This tells of Sam's life after the Hulk ship

http://www.convictrecords.com.au/convicts/turnock/samuel/103826
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« Reply #13 on: Friday 08 April 11 16:05 BST (UK) »
Well, Samuel was relatively lucky if he had to spend only six months on the hulks.

I'm sure some of our 'southerners' will be able to give you more info on him in VDL.  Unless he was a 'model prisoner' when there is little documentation other than the basics.  Some of my convicts were apparently so well behaved that they just disappeared from view of the authorities who seemingly only recorded the bad things, not the good things.

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« Reply #14 on: Friday 08 April 11 16:37 BST (UK) »
Well, Samuel was relatively lucky if he had to spend only six months on the hulks.

I'm sure some of our 'southerners' will be able to give you more info on him in VDL.  Unless he was a 'model prisoner' when there is little documentation other than the basics.  Some of my convicts were apparently so well behaved that they just disappeared from view of the authorities who seemingly only recorded the bad things, not the good things.

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Hi Dawn
A lot of convicts did well for themselves after their jail term or some did mandatory time of their sentence Ie;- 7 years sentence and did 2 of 7 years in jail then a sort part time occupation in the community and part jail. This was the idea of sending out people with different trades.( some being sent for near nothing? if they had a good trade.)  to build up a new verity of trades in society out there.

There will be a lot of info on Sam but it can be expensive for a search some sites  but some is free on Google.
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« Reply #15 on: Friday 08 April 11 21:17 BST (UK) »
Thank you to all for your help, it`s all certainly given me quite a bit of work to do  :)
Rimmington:
Thorneycroft:Staffs
Cartlidge:Staffs
Middleditch:
Edwards:
Hurst:
Shelton: