MISSING MARRIAGE?

[Marj]

Hi

Just a thought
Have you looked for Ada Dunn and her daughter Ada, as Ada Taylor, a possibility that they could have  been living  with George but they wasn't married,  as they married after the  1911 census was taken.

Regards   MArj

[Sumi]

 I looked at the CLAYTON/DUNN marriage as well......but the GRO birth index lists Joseph's mmn as DUNN and it would be CLAYTON for this theory to work.

[gortonboy]

i had thought of that,,,but it wouldnt be the first time an entry on a birth certificate was wrong,,,i would have expected it  to say mothers name Taylor formerly Dunn was Clayton....but maybe she just wanted to put her old married  name down?   

[gortonboy]

Hi

Just a thought
Have you looked for Ada Dunn and her daughter Ada, as Ada Taylor, a possibility that they could have  been living  with George but they wasn't married,  as they married after the  1911 census was taken.

Regards   MArj

Yes,,i have looked for Ada under Taylor,,and under Clayton,,and under Dunn,,,cant see a match.

[gortonboy]

in 1901  Ada had 2 daughters,,i cannot find Ada or her 2 daughters in the 1911 census,,as i said,,i am not requesting a look up,,i have searched myself??

Ada dunn b 1877
Ada dunn b 1900
Mary dunn b 1897

i think i will have to order the george taylor/ann dunn marriage cert,,and see what it says...maybe it will say she is a widow and she was formerly Clayton,,if it doesnt,,,then back to the drawing board 

[gortonboy]

ok,,some more info,,,according to the daughter of Joseph Taylor,,,,Josephs mother and father are buried in Philips park cemetery in Manchester,
the grave gives
Ada Taylor  died 1st May 1930 age 53  so b c 1877
George Taylor died 1960  age 82          so b c 1878

this is why we first thought that the parents were the george Taylor and Ada Taylor  nee Ancoats who married in 1899,,even though 1920 was late for Josephs birth ,,Ada would have been 43.....but Josephs mothers maiden name  was Dunn?
Then we thought maybe George remarried another Ada,,,but they are together in the 1911 census,,,and the marriage to the Ann Dunn is also 1911,just after the census ?

there are supoosedley some stepbrothers and sisters of Joseph,,but because of the surname taylor,,,and the lack of exact birthyears,,,again i cannot cross reference....ah  well...
 

[gortonboy]

just in case it may prove to be relevant,,it probably wont 

the george taylor who married ada ancoats in 1899...in the 1901 census,,ada is living under her maiden name Ada Ancoats,,i cant find george ,and supposedly they had a daughter ada in 1900,,i cant find her either ??

i know it the correct Ada Ancoats in the 1901 census because the surname is so rare,,,and her occupation is the same as her wedding certificate. Why is she living under her maiden name??  this may not even have anything to do with my Joseph thread,,but just in case.,,,,,,,,,,,,,,oooh  my brain hurts !!!

[gortonboy]

Blimey !!  just had a look at the 1891 census for Ada Ancoats,,,and,,,  is this just a wierd coincidence,,,in the 1891 census Ada Ancoats is living in Cheltenham street

[gortonboy]

the marriage for George Taylor and Ann Dunn has been looked up {cheers beannie }

George  Taylor batchelor 33  Carter 17 Mary Ellen Street  father George Henry Taylor  bricklayers labourer

Ann Dunn spinster  33 cotton waste sorter  19 Mary Ellen Street  father Thomas Clayton deceased a slater

this means that this is definitely the George Taylor who married Ada Ancoats in 1899.
George is living at 17 Mary Ellen Street in the 1911 census with Ada !!!

So this must be Josephs father,,but why is his mothers name on the birth cert given as Ada not Ann ?
The strange thing is that George is buried with his first wife !! and i wonder what happened to his first wife,,,he certainly didnt hang around getting remarried,,,,he has 1 family in the 1911 census ,,and marries again  4 months later? He has also put that he is a bachelor !! am i wrong to suspect bigamy?
there is something not quite right here