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MISSING MARRIAGE?
« on: Wednesday 06 April 11 17:23 BST (UK) »
Hi,,,I have a Joseph Taylor b 1920 in Manchester...trying to sort his parents out,,so did the right thing and ordered his birth cert.....the birth cert gives his father as George Taylor and his mother as Ada Taylor formerly Dunn. All well and good,,except i cannot see a marriage between a George Taylor and an Ada Dunn.
There is one between a George Taylor and an Anne Dunn in 1911....????

so i am a bit stuck now,,,i have nothing to cross check the birth with as yet,,i have no idea of the parents ages or even where they were born,,,so if i ordered the George Taylor/Ann dunn marriiage cert,i would still have no way of knowing if these are the correct parents,,,any suggestions

the other detail on the birthy cert gives an address of 175 cheltenham street,Manchester....i have checked the 1911 census,just in case,,no joy !
George Taylor was described as a coal carter,,ex private K.L.R.   which i assume means he served in the war with the Kings Liverpool Regiment,,,i have searched for a possible service record,,but with the name being so common,and no service number,,no joy !!

I have posted a thread regarding searching for a GeorgeTaylor in the absent voters list at the cheltenham sreet address....so...have i covered all the bases,,,anything else you can suggest.... ;D cheers   GB
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Re: MISSING MARRIAGE?
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 06 April 11 18:10 BST (UK) »
On Lancashire bmd the george Taylor who married Ann Dunn 1911 has Ann been married befor as Ann Clayton ?

J.D.

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« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 06 April 11 18:15 BST (UK) »
cheers JD,,,will follow that up  ;)
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Re: MISSING MARRIAGE?
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 06 April 11 18:49 BST (UK) »
Did you already know Joseph's father was George TAYLOR before you ordered the birth certificate?  If not, you could be going down the wrong track....get a copy of Joseph's marriage certificate for his father's name and occupation.....also witness names which can be helpful sometimes.

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« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 06 April 11 20:15 BST (UK) »
yes we did know his fathers name,,we already had a short birth certificate,,and we have Josephs marriage certificate.....no clues on josephs marriage cert.
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Re: MISSING MARRIAGE?
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 07 April 11 13:07 BST (UK) »
Hi


There is a marriage for
Ada Clayton & Francis Dunn in march qtr 1897 married at St.James Collyhurst.

Could Ann the marriage in 1911 been a mistake and Could it have been Ada ?

on the 1901 census index I don't have access for the details

Francis Dunn aged 26 b. Manchester Marine Store Dealer
Ada Dunn aged 24 b. Manchester
Ada Dunn aged 1 b. Manchester

There is a death for Francis Dunn in 1905 aged 29 March Qtr

Hope this helps

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« Reply #6 on: Thursday 07 April 11 14:58 BST (UK) »
thanks Marj,,,there is a connection with  collyhurst and St James church,,i dont have the details to hand,,,but will have a read of my notes,,,,cheers.  ;)
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« Reply #7 on: Thursday 07 April 11 15:43 BST (UK) »
it is interesting that i cannot find Ada Dunn or her 2 daughters on the 1911 census,,,i am not asking for a look up,,as i have acess,,,just wondering if Ada could be the Ann that married George Taylor in 1911,,,as JD pointed out,Ann was indexed on Lancs bmd as Clayton and Dunn ?   
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« Reply #8 on: Thursday 07 April 11 15:46 BST (UK) »
i remember the Collyhurst connection now,,,we believed at first that Josephs father was the George Taylor who married an Ada Ancoats at Collyhurst St James in 1899....this is now looking very unlikely.  ;)
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