John Atkinson - Licensed Victuallers and Public Houses in Liverpool

[bobfilm]

I wonder if you have any information on Licensed Victuallers and Public Houses in Liverpool?

I have a John Atkinson (born abt 1812 in Penrith, Cumberland), as a Licensed Victualler, resident at 66 Lower Harrington Street, Toxteth Park Extra Parochial, Liverpool in 1851.
In 1861 he is shown as a Licensed Victualler, resident at 27 Hurst Street, Liverpool (Would this be the ‘Baltic Fleet’ public house in Hurst Street, Liverpool?). By 1871 he is shown as a Retired Licensed Victualler, resident at 1 St Joesphs Road, Tranmere.
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John was married to Mary Ann (born abt 1808 in Heswall, Cumberland) and had five children Elizabeth (born abt 1837), Eleanora (born abt 1840), Henry Atkinson (born 1844), Emile (born abt 1846) and Annie Maria (born abt 1848) – All born in Liverpool, Lancashire.

In 1881, his daughters Emile and Annie Maria Atkinson are both shown as Publicans; resident at 95 Park Lane, Pitt Street, Liverpool (would this be ‘The Old Curiosity Vaults’, corner of Dickenson Street and Park Lane now demolished?). Henry A. Shaw is shown as Barman.

Any information on which public houses the Atkinson family might have owned or managed would be most helpful.

[Lisajj]

I do believe that a Licensed Victualler was someone who sold alcohol from their own house - probably the front room.  So he wouldn't have actually ran a pub until he was a Publican.

[BashLad]

I wouldn't be too sure Lisajj. I've got a licensed victualler in my tree resident at the Turk's Head Inn, if that's not a pub landlord I don't know what is.

[garstonite]

I don`t know about 1861 , but I was in the Baltic Fleet last week and both entrance doors are on Wapping ...I will ask next week when I go and see if anyone has any history ...I personally don`t think the Baltic Fleet is 150 years old, but I may be wrong....allan

[ShaunJ]

Per 1881 Gore's :

95 Park Lane was the Curiosityvaults , Hy Dixon Atkinson

27 Hurst Street was a wine and spirit vaults

[garstonite]

It appears I am wrong regarding it`s age...there are 3 tunnels underneath the pub , used by smugglers and also slaves were shackled under there ...whilst sailors went for a pint
See

BBC - Liverpool - Coast - Stage 8 - Salthouse

Dock (http://www.bbc.co.uk/liverpool/content/articles/2005/07/20/coast05walks_stage8.shtml)

Underneath the pub there are caverns and cellars and stories abound of a tunnel running from the pubs cellar to the docks, through which

in the days of the Press Gang men would be captured in pubs. According to the legend Press Gangs would get men drunk and then take them through the tunnels

and aboard the ships to work, they would wake up with a sore head and aboard a ship in open sea.

allan

[ShaunJ]

He's in the list of Hotels Inns and Taverns in 1860 Gore's, listed at 27 Hurst Street. There is no name given for this establishment.  In 1853 Gore's, this address is the residence of a cartowner and provision dealer.

[ShaunJ]

27 Hurst Street was on the corner of Hurst Street and Carpenter's Row.

In 1911 Gore's it is the Elmsmere Vaults

[ShaunJ]

1863 Slaters has Atkinson, Jas at 66 Lower Harrington Street