William Boyd 1881 Doagh

[silverofoxo]

Thanks, a previous post gave me the name of Edward's father which I have confirmed through Edward's death certificate as Edward moved to Ayrshire and died in 1926 supposedly age 61 but I think the age is wrong as he would have been 11 when married!  I am trying to gain more information about the Boyd line and all the information I have about James Boyd is that he married Jane Kane and his occupation was general labourer.  I estimate Edward's date of birth to be 1860.
Regards
Silverofoxo

[silverofoxo]

Further to previous posts I would be grateful for any information concerning parents and other family members of Edward Boyd born 1856. He was married in 1876 to Rachell Lough and his residence at the time of his marriage was Kingsmoss, Ballylinney. He was married in Staid at the Independent Meeting House according to the Usage of the Independent Denomination and the minister was James Bain. Edward's father was James Boyd, farmer.  Is Kingsmoss and Kingsbog the same place?
Thanks
Silverofoxo

[TheWhuttle]

Hi,

Yep, "Kingsbog" is the same place as "Kingsmoss".

[A townland in the SE of Ballylinny (aka Ballylinney) parish.
 Named so 'cos all peat bogs were reserved for use of the Monarch's forces.
 Folks living there were free of taxes (tithe & cess) but had to deliver a cartload of peat products (turbary) to heat the garrison at Carrickfergus twice a year.]


For an comprehensive search you need to cover the following variations:
[With the number of wills or admins listed at PRONI parenthesised here.]

"kingsbog" (7)
"king'sbog" (0)
"kings bog" (0)
"king's bog" (0)

"kingsmoss" (29)
"king'smoss" (0)
"kings moss" (2)
"king's moss" (10)

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"Doagh" is where the local registration office was located.
Folks from Kingsbog would record births there.

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A James BOYD of Ballyvesey contributed £20 to the establishment of the independent church at Ballycraigy. 
[A townland lying next to Kingsbog, but part of Carnmoney parish.]

This chapel was run for many years as an outreach of the Straid congregation.
The Reverend James BAIN  ministered there during 1836-1847, though spent his life at Straid, finally retiring in 1880.
[His picture can be seen in the beautifully produced book:
    Ballycraigy Congregational Church 1805-2005 A.D.
    2005
    ISBN 1 870157 64 8
 Much is said there about the origins of the local churches,
 inspired by the evangelical mission of the Scottish HALDANE brothers from Stirling.
 Many members were lost to emigration during The Famine of 1846/7,
 but many were attracted during the great 1859 revival.]
 
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The BOYDs most likely derive from Ayrshire, as a sept of the Royal STEWART clan,
related to King James' big pal MONTGOMERY.
[Though maybe also from the Isles of Bute or Man.]
    Ref: The Book of Ulster Surnames pp18-19
    Robert Bell
    The Blackstaff Press, 1988
    ISBN 0-85640-405-5


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Use http://askaboutireland.ie/griffith-valuation/index.xml?action=placeSearch
to have a look at some occupants of Kingsbog in 1864,
together with maps (based on the OS Memoirs of the 1830's, and modern-day OS) and satellite images.

Happy trawling!

Capt. Jock

[silverofoxo]

Capt Jock
Thanks very much for the imformation. I will look into all the sources given.
Regards
Silverofoxo

[TheWhuttle]

Hi again,

I've got some more specific info, analysis & thoughts for you.
[Including the likely reason why the marriage took place at Straid rather than Ballycraigy.]

Let me know if you want this now, or whether you would prefer to work it out yourself for a while ... 

Capt. Jock

[stevenson]

Silvofoxo

I am a descendant of William John Boyd b1823 d.1891 of Kingsmoss Ballylinney

The Will of William Lough has given me information of my family too...Sarah Kidd being one.

I have Williams father as James mother Sarah Robinson...but too date no prof positive.....and William also had a half brother James

Capt.Jock
You are a tease.......please please I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW...lol

is Sliverofoxo related to me.

a very excited Steve...again

[silverofoxo]

Captain Jock & Stevenson
Like Stevenson I would like to know the information asap as I am very confused!
Regards
Silverofoxo

[TheWhuttle]

Why Congregationalists Associated with Ballycraigy Might Have Had to Marry at Straid

The Reverend David QUERN 1811-1893 was forced to retire from his duties at Ballycraigy Cg during 1876 (aged 65) due to ill health.
[Some operational interruption/confusion may have resulted at the time.]

Although he commenced his duties in 1848 he was not formally ordained until 1860.
[A gap of 12 years. Hmm ...]


His son, David Alexander QUERN, took over the pastoral duties during that 1876 year.
However, he was not formally ordained until 25-JAN-1877.
[A potential gap of 7 months, say.]


Presumably (?) both QUERNs would have precluded from offering their services to conduct a valid marriage ceremony before their ordination dates.
[In order to conform to the conditions of the great Dissenters' Relief Act of 1845?]

So, potential marriage celebrants would have had to call on other congregations/pastors for support.
The obvious candidate being the "parental" Cg church at Straid and its ministers.

The Reverend James BAIN retired from Straid in 1880, so was probably "getting on a bit" in 1876, maybe not too prone to travel.
He had served at Ballycraigy during 1836-1847, so may have been instrumental in attracting the family to the church.


Why is this important?
Records from Straid may throw light on the genealogies of folks associated with the Ballycraigy Cg church ....
[Sadly, the Ballycraigy Cg records are "missing" ...]

Capt. Jock

[silverofoxo]

Capt Jock
You are unbelievable!  Thank you very much for the information and directing me towards Straid hopefully for further information.  Can you throw any light on whether Edward Boyd had brothers and/or sisters which may also take me further in my search to find more about the 'Boyd' history.
Edward was born 1853, married at Straid 1876 and died in Stevenston Ayrshire 19 dec 1926.
He appears on the 1901 & 1911 censuses as living in Stevenston but I do not know when he left Ireland.
All of his 12 children appear to have been born in Ireland & I know that the first 3 were born in Doagh.
His father was James Boyd and mother was Jane/Jennet Kane/Kaine? I have no other information regarding them. I have been able to get more information on his wife, Rachel Lough of Kingsbog.  Her father was William Lough  mother Martha (Debouys) Boyd.  I have come across variations on the spelling of her maiden name - De Bois, Dubois & Debouys.  Assistance gratefully received.
Many thanks for all you help.
Regards
Silverofoxo.