1861 Census help please! *Defeat admitted*

[apanderson]

Thanks Gordon.

I've tried everything I can think of, but I didn't think of contacting the Church. I already have the children's baptisms - they were all on George's Discharge Papers, so I know when and where each child was christened.

One of the staff at Scotland's People has read through all the original Census Pages for Lapicide Lane for me and couldn't find anything either. 

I don't think the Chissels were particularly 'Churchy' folk, but anything's worth a shot. If there was a Communion they may be listed but as I'm not really a 'Churchy' person either, I don't know any records of Communicants would be taken?

Thanks for your interest.

Anne

[KirstyG]

Hi Anne

I don't know if it would help but Lapicide Lane is shown on this map http://geo.nls.uk/os6inch/google.html

It is just off North Fort Street, opposite the fort. It is still there today but it is called Lapicide Place.
http://www.edinburgh.org.uk/STREETS/part2/l.htm

Hillhousefield House was a short distance away near Pitt Street, just off South Fort Street.

Kirsty

[apanderson]

Hi Kirsty,

Thanks very much for the map - obviously a wee bit different from how it looks today!

Maybe the Chissels were out camping on one of the many surrounding fields.

Anne 

[That_Daft_Laddie]

To complicate matters;
Hillhousefield was renamed Trafalgar Lane, (where my mum lived) .

Fort Place, (where I lived until 9yrs old), was demolished, they built a new group of houses and named it ........ Hillhousefield!   



Follow the pea, follow the pea, now which cup is it under? 


Gordon

[apanderson]

LOL! Thanks Gordon!

I've just downloaded all 12 pages of Leith Fort's 1861 Census to see if there was (by some teeny weeny chance) a Chissel missed somewhere along the way or their name had been so wildly mistranscribed that it might have been a variant I hadn't though of.

Nope!

Am I surprised?   Nope again!!   

Anne

[Unë kthimi i papenduar]

An historical tale concerning the gunners of Leith Fort and the installing of the "One o'clock gun"  at Edinburgh Castle.

"1861. Captains of ships anchored in the Forth set their chronometers by the ball at Nelson's Monument on the Calton Hill but as the ball could not be seen in misty weather an audible signal was required. A gun from Leith Fort was set up on the Castle's Half Moon Battery, connected electronically to the time ball and so the "One o'clock Gun" was fired for the first time."

http://www.1oclockgun.com/1861_gun_procedure.html

A family move to Edinburgh Castle perhaps.

[That_Daft_Laddie]

Here's a bio of a George Penny Chissel the younger, Glasgow Highlanders, (including photos). in .pdf format.
Researched by his grandson Dr Andre Chissel.

Old George, (if it is the correct one), sounds like he might had been a bit of a lad. 

http://www.rhf.org.uk/gh/GH_News_SE1.pdf

I know it's not what we're searching for but a crumb's a crumb and this pile was way too good to pass by.


Gordon

[apanderson]

Thanks for that link Gordon.

I have been working with Andre on and off for the past 3/4 years and the George on this thread is his Gt. Grandfather.

It's been quite an experience following his family - they have kept me thoroughly entertained, but not being able to find them in 1861 is driving me bonkers!

Unë kthimi i papenduar - I thought of that too, but as Edinburgh Castle is still Midlothian, a name search should have found him, which it didn't.

Thanks for your continuing input!!

Anne

P.S. As for 'Old' George being a bit of a lad - oooooooh yes! But believe it or not - he had nothing on the ladies in the family!!

[That_Daft_Laddie]

Is it possible he could have been posted outside the UK at the time of census?

I've come across a reference to the 1861 Army Index created by Frank Turner in the 1880's

"The indexation entailed the extraction of some 245,000 soldiers listed in the WO 10 (Royal Artillery), WO 11 (Royal Engineers) and WO 12 (Cavalry, Guards, Infantry and other units) series War Office Paylists in the March-June Quarter of 1861. The index was acquired by Military and Historical Searches upon retirement of the compiler.

I have no idea if this is work is generally available. however, this pro-researcher has access to it. > http://www.pro-search.co.uk/1861_army.htm


Gordon