1861 Census help please! *Defeat admitted*

[apanderson]

Despite using every spelling variant I can think of, I can't find the Chissel Family in Leith (or anywhere else in the whole of the UK) on the 1861 Census.

The known details are:

George Penny Chissel, age 28/29, Gunner or Bombardier Royal Artillery, born c1832, East Allington, Kingsbridge, Devon
Ann Chissel (nee Dunn/Don) wife, age 27/28, born c1833, Stirling
George Penny Chissel, age 2, born 19th March 1859, Leith, Midlothian
Helen Chissel, age 3 months, born 13th January 1861, Hillhousefield, Leith, Midlothian

They had another son, John Chissel, also born at Hillhousefield, Leith on 2nd December 1862, so presumably they didn't hop off to somewhere else between the births of Helen in 1861 and John in 1862 ....... or did they?

I have a record of all their children's baptisms which were included in George's Discharge Papers of 1873. This shows that both Helen and John were baptised at North Leith a few weeks after their births and also their first (surviving) child George in 1859.

George and Ann were married at Stirling 2nd March 1857.

Anne

[Hibee]

Hi Anne

Try searching under Chisell.  There is another child, Jane, born 1858.

Hibee

[apanderson]

Hi Hibee,

Thanks for that, but I must be doing something wrong somewhere as I STILL can't find them!

Can you tell me the exact search criteria you used please and I'll have another go?

Anne

[Hibee]

I looked at Births, 1858-62 on ScotlandsPeople, for surname Chisell, Leith, Midlothian.

But I agree that the 1861 census does not show this.

Hibee

[apanderson]

George & Ann had 10 children in total born between Monifeith, Leith and finally Glasgow.

All the Chissel Births, Marriages & Deaths on SP are the same family, so it's been relatively easy (but expensive) to get all the certs and keep track of them.

This is the only Census I can't find them on and it's driving me bonkers!

Thanks for having a look for me anyway!

Anne 

[apanderson]

I've also got a thread running on the Devon Board, but I'm not going to cross reference them as they're not exactly the same query.

This link is to the Devon thread:

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,524556.0.html

Anne

[loudoniii]

Hi Anne !

Do you by any chance know the address they might have been staying at during the 1861 census period ?

If so, you can sometimes search on the address, which would enable you to find any mistranscriptions that a direct search would miss.

For example, if they lived at the same address in 1851 and 1871, it is a fair assumption that 1861 would be the same.

Or maybe try the same address as 1851, or as 1871 ?

This only works if you have a rather specific address, eg 123 Brown Road.

What I mean is to search on the address, for any name living at that address on the census night.

If you have a likely-looking address at their time of marriage in 1857, this might be a good starting point to search for them in the 1861 census 4 years later.

[loudoniii]

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[apanderson]

No address other than that listed on the B.C.'s of Helen, January 1861 and John, December 1862 which was just 'Hillhousefield', Leith - no number unfortunately.

Anne